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Old 04-11-2004, 11:33 AM
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How hagh is your ride height?
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Old 04-11-2004, 11:41 AM
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i dont have a guage

but as a reference my droop guage wont fit under it, standing or on its side, with all elecs and batts onboard.

i took for a short spin outside and i was scraping when i hit little cracks Im running the rtr wheels & tires too
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Old 04-11-2004, 11:51 AM
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You really need to measure it. Minor changes can raise the ride height a lot. The way to raise your ride height is to add preload to the springs. If you have the RTR shocks with out threaded bodies, slide the adjusters down to add tension to the springs. This will raise the chassis. If you're running in a driveway or something with cracks in it, set it to about 6-7mm. Most of us when were racing will set it around 4-5 mm depending on the racing surface (and rules)
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Old 04-11-2004, 12:06 PM
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Hey Jon, your PM box is full. What pistons and oil are you using now?
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ahh ok. yea my next visit to the lhs ill pick up a guage. ill probably be running indoors next so i dont think it will be much of a problem until we move outside

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A ride height gauge is only a few bucks, very much worth the cash.
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Old 04-11-2004, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: How do I setup my car for asphalt

Originally posted by Losi Lunatic
I have a race in 2 weeks on asphalt. I have only been racing on carpet in the stock class. I basically have a stock setup. What type of changes do I need to make to droop, ride height, springs, tires, etc. I went to the Losi site to check on setup sheets, but I have come to realize that I do not have the same reaction times that pros have and I have had better luck with small changes to the stock setup. The track looks like it will be a little small and a little bumpy. Any sugestions?
xxx-s bill should be able to give you a setup for Sheldons.His cars are dialed even though it a Losi!
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Old 04-11-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by Randman
The Mi2 is definately making a name for itself down here as well, it's an impressive car I must admit...
It's going to turn some heads out here as well.
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Originally posted by Randman
Hey Jon, your PM box is full. What pistons and oil are you using now?
Empty now. It's still got 40 wt and 56 pistons. I've got a second set of shocks I'm going to build with a heavier setup just in case this ends up too soft for the amount of traction we get @ Norco. Makes for a quick chnge.
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Originally posted by jkerr0043
Empty now. It's still got 40 wt and 56 pistons. I've got a second set of shocks I'm going to build with a heavier setup just in case this ends up too soft for the amount of traction we get @ Norco. Makes for a quick chnge.
That's cool, as long as I dont have to change my oil and pistons I can make a quick setup change to what you're running if it works well.
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Old 04-11-2004, 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by pro3racer
i meant with the "common sense" was to go down to your lowest carpet spring, then go up, if your really loose right now, being tight might be better?
ok, i guess i'll start with some orange springs, i think white would be too soft.
has anyone ever tried splitting the battery pack? what advantages/differences does it make?
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Old 04-11-2004, 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by STLNLST
Do you have a spare 27 band receiver that I can use until I get my one from KO back????
What brand do you prefer, I think I have a few of them, just have to look in my stuff. What radio are you running?
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Old 04-11-2004, 05:43 PM
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how else can i help my understeer?it's not the servo. here's my setup.
2 degrees of toe-in
4mm ride height
2 degree hub carriers
2mm droop
pivot support 4
1 washer under bellcrank ball stud
upper shock mounting hole:2
Camber link mounting hole:2
losi low roll
shocks: 60 wt oil, 56 piston, purple spring
-1 camber
24 mm dbl pinks

rear:
2 degree toe in
5mm ride height
-1 camber
4mm droop
pivot support 0
camber link in hub: location A
camber link in tower:hole 1
upper shock mounting location:hole 2
lower shock mounting locationutside
losi low roll center
shocks: 80 wt oil, 55 piston, orange spring
26mm purples

battery placed rearward

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Old 04-11-2004, 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by James Nguyen
What brand do you prefer, I think I have a few of them, just have to look in my stuff. What radio are you running?
I'm using the M8. I normally run KO receivers but at this point anything (that doesn't glitch) will do.
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Old 04-12-2004, 12:03 AM
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Cardboard: The two degrees of toe-in in the front is a bad idea, and could certainly be part of your problem. You generally want to run 0* in the front, or slightly toed out.

You also have twice as much droop in the rear as in the front. That means you are transferring more side-to-side weight in the rear, which also means that the front will transfer more quickly than the rear, which could lead to understeer. Try 2mm/2mm or 3mm/2mm and see if you can notice a difference. I run my Losi with 2mm in the front and 1.5mm in the back on foams.

Your spring stagger is really odd as well. Generally you will want both sides to be somewhat stiff with foams, even on a lower traction surface. When you say you're running an orange spring, make sure it's the correct one -- there are two different Losi orange springs, one is really stiff and one is really light. I would try running Purple front, Dark Green or Blue rear (as referenced here: http://www.teamlosi.com/techtips/spring_chart.htm).

Finally, running a 24mm tire in the front and a 26mm tire in the rear could be part of the problem. That will increase your rear bite, which is not what you want if you are understeering.

You also want to run the battery placed to the front. Always.
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