Losi XXX-S
#6437

Originally posted by ROBORAT
dont quite understand your question .... but yes the two screws on both sides of the chassis which screw into the top shaft and mount the spur in place are there. do people actually remove those? cant imagine why....
dont quite understand your question .... but yes the two screws on both sides of the chassis which screw into the top shaft and mount the spur in place are there. do people actually remove those? cant imagine why....

the spur in itself has a factory defect, it wobbles on the shaft.
or... the shaft has a defect which makes the spur wobble:

#6439
Tech Adept

How do you "break in" a diff? I don't remember it saying anything in the manual about breaking in the diff.
#6440
Tech Adept

it is like breaking in brushes on a motor. everything has to get seated for it to run in properly.
#6441

Originally posted by Smartazz07
How do you "break in" a diff? I don't remember it saying anything in the manual about breaking in the diff.
How do you "break in" a diff? I don't remember it saying anything in the manual about breaking in the diff.
A.W
#6442
Tech Rookie

Help.....
Dunno if anybody can offer some advice to a struggling Losi XXX-S driver?
No matter what I do I cannot get my car to run very fast, even with a 13T motor!
I've tried various adjustments to the diffs. I've changed the gearing (Various pinions, two different spurs) and I've even blown a ton on the graphite upgrade kit to try and lose some weight, but to no avail.
Can anybody give me any suggestions to improve the speed of the car?
Thanks,
Michael McCormick
Dunno if anybody can offer some advice to a struggling Losi XXX-S driver?
No matter what I do I cannot get my car to run very fast, even with a 13T motor!
I've tried various adjustments to the diffs. I've changed the gearing (Various pinions, two different spurs) and I've even blown a ton on the graphite upgrade kit to try and lose some weight, but to no avail.
Can anybody give me any suggestions to improve the speed of the car?
Thanks,
Michael McCormick
#6443

Originally posted by mimno-uk
Help.....
Dunno if anybody can offer some advice to a struggling Losi XXX-S driver?
No matter what I do I cannot get my car to run very fast, even with a 13T motor!
I've tried various adjustments to the diffs. I've changed the gearing (Various pinions, two different spurs) and I've even blown a ton on the graphite upgrade kit to try and lose some weight, but to no avail.
Can anybody give me any suggestions to improve the speed of the car?
Thanks,
Michael McCormick
Help.....
Dunno if anybody can offer some advice to a struggling Losi XXX-S driver?
No matter what I do I cannot get my car to run very fast, even with a 13T motor!
I've tried various adjustments to the diffs. I've changed the gearing (Various pinions, two different spurs) and I've even blown a ton on the graphite upgrade kit to try and lose some weight, but to no avail.
Can anybody give me any suggestions to improve the speed of the car?
Thanks,
Michael McCormick
#6444

Originally posted by mimno-uk
Help.....
Dunno if anybody can offer some advice to a struggling Losi XXX-S driver?
No matter what I do I cannot get my car to run very fast, even with a 13T motor!
I've tried various adjustments to the diffs. I've changed the gearing (Various pinions, two different spurs) and I've even blown a ton on the graphite upgrade kit to try and lose some weight, but to no avail.
Can anybody give me any suggestions to improve the speed of the car?
Thanks,
Michael McCormick
Help.....
Dunno if anybody can offer some advice to a struggling Losi XXX-S driver?
No matter what I do I cannot get my car to run very fast, even with a 13T motor!
I've tried various adjustments to the diffs. I've changed the gearing (Various pinions, two different spurs) and I've even blown a ton on the graphite upgrade kit to try and lose some weight, but to no avail.
Can anybody give me any suggestions to improve the speed of the car?
Thanks,
Michael McCormick

#6445
Tech Rookie

Right.... Surface is tarmac. Belt is not too tight, i.e. just enough to skip a little on heavy braking. The speed issue just seems to be always. I'm usually a Yok MR4 driver so I know a bit about setting up the cars for the right surface, but I must have missed something with the losi. My mate also has an identical losi and his seems to be "night and day" different to mine speed wise, and his is bog-standard, i.e. no graphite. He also runs a 19T motor and is quicker in a straight line and round the bends than I am with a 13T. Other than that, losi purple springs on the friont and losi blue on the back. All of the motors are freshly skimmed with new brushes. I've tested them all in my yok and they are fine. Gearing is red 48DP gear/spur and the pinion is usually as recommended in the manual. (NB - The motor's always come out of the car VERY hot no matter what pinion I use!)

#6446

Mimno UK - the first thing that I would look at is the drivetrain, is anything binding? Spin the wheels without a motor in place, the drivetrain should spin a little, not a long time mind you, but it will give you an indication if its bound... watch for a sudden stop at the end of the spin - this can mean a blown bearing or issues elsewhere.
Make sure that the two screws holding the spur gear in place aren't too tight - as that can also bind the drivetrain.
As for the motor question, there's no reason a 19T should be faster than a 13T, at the very least in a straight line. If the motor is getting that hot, look into different brushes, springs, and I would also guess that the gearing isn't quite right yet.
Another possibility to look at are the radio/ESC settings - reset the ESC, and make sure that the End points are set to full on the radio.
Regards, Wilde
Make sure that the two screws holding the spur gear in place aren't too tight - as that can also bind the drivetrain.
As for the motor question, there's no reason a 19T should be faster than a 13T, at the very least in a straight line. If the motor is getting that hot, look into different brushes, springs, and I would also guess that the gearing isn't quite right yet.
Another possibility to look at are the radio/ESC settings - reset the ESC, and make sure that the End points are set to full on the radio.
Regards, Wilde
#6447
Tech Rookie

Thanks. I'll give the suggestions a try.
#6448

Sounds like a definite drive train problem. I would take all of the bearings out and clean them carefully. Sometimes it can feel like the bearing's OK, but it is actually seized solid and is just turning on the axle.
#6449

What is your point of reference when you say your car is slow? Are guys blowing past you on the straight or are the laptimes just off?
If guys are blowing past you and the drivetrain is pretty smooth, I'd have a look at your gearing. Every motor gears differently, so using someone elses or the manual's gearing, isn't necessarily right for your motor and track. Watch where the speed of the car tops out on the longest straight. If it tops out early and the car seems like it's lagging down the straight, increase one tooth at a time on your pinion until the speed tops out at the end of the straight. If it seems like you have more speed left as you let off at the end of the straight, go down a tooth until you top off at the end of the straight. Then, tune for the rest of the track. Also, check your timing on the motor. If you inadvertantly set the motor with negative timing, it will be slow and get excessively hot. If you're just sliding around and have to go slow to keep the car online, try laying the shocks down or use softer tires or inserts. Sorry if this is stuff you already know, but it could be one or more of those things that are causing the car to be slow.
If guys are blowing past you and the drivetrain is pretty smooth, I'd have a look at your gearing. Every motor gears differently, so using someone elses or the manual's gearing, isn't necessarily right for your motor and track. Watch where the speed of the car tops out on the longest straight. If it tops out early and the car seems like it's lagging down the straight, increase one tooth at a time on your pinion until the speed tops out at the end of the straight. If it seems like you have more speed left as you let off at the end of the straight, go down a tooth until you top off at the end of the straight. Then, tune for the rest of the track. Also, check your timing on the motor. If you inadvertantly set the motor with negative timing, it will be slow and get excessively hot. If you're just sliding around and have to go slow to keep the car online, try laying the shocks down or use softer tires or inserts. Sorry if this is stuff you already know, but it could be one or more of those things that are causing the car to be slow.