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Old 02-26-2002, 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by MDM3
I was thinking of starting with a 25 or 26 pinion with a new P2K2 Pro.

I have now 24-27 pinions.
running the 90t 48spur.
fairly tight LHS parking lot track
The LHS guy tells me I am crazy "Way too overgeared for running that setup. Drop to a 19 or 20"
What to do?
The P2K2# 28,262 120.8 watt,67.7 eff.,165 trq. Decent or dog?(I thought the RPM looked low)

Per the tip on the XXXS Tech page, I shortened the bottom shock eylets 1/8" and trimmed the top collar ring 1" springs.
Will this suffice until the threaded short shock kit arrives? Thanks Mike
Mike,

The eyelet mod you did will lower the ride height. To get the benefit of increase steering you can shorten your front shock shafts by .100 shorter than the Losi shafts.

Although you wont have the full benefit of the new shock shafts and shortened shock bodies - this will be a good fix until your order arrives.

Btw, your guy at your LHS is mis-spoken. Start with 24. 19 and 20 is way too low.
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Old 02-26-2002, 11:53 PM
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Titanium racing in the UK does a complete Ti screw set for 33. Ive not yet bought one but consider it to be good value for money at that price!!

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Old 02-27-2002, 04:48 AM
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How much would that be in us dollars?
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Old 02-27-2002, 06:07 AM
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Its round about $45.

You can see the other Titanium stuff they do (diff outdrives, cvds, hinge pins etc etc) at their web site http://www.titaniumracing.com/site.html

i dont know whether they will ship to the US but e-mail them you never know. I have been in contact with Paul white their sales manager. If they cant ship direct try Apex models http://www.apexmodels.co.uk or snetterton model shop http://www.sm-modelshop.co.uk cos they are both supposed to stock Titanium Racing products and are first class mail order specialists

Good luck

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This is my current set-up:

Front:
4 degree blocks
purple congo springs
56 pistons with 60 wt oil
One in on the shock tower from outside
Camber rod one out from the inside
High roll center
4.5mm ride hight
Losi Sway bar 2nd lightest size

Rear:
Stock rear hubs
Losi Purple springs
56 pistons with 60 wt oil
One hole in on shock tower from outside
Camber Rod long as possible
High roll center
4.5mm ride hight

Plaid tires up front and purple rears
This was avery easy to drive set-up and smooth transitions on the tight carpet track we run on. Just keep a good amount of tension on the belt and have fun!
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Old 02-27-2002, 07:38 AM
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My setup is close to yours, I use 57, 40w, black in the rear. And no swaybar up front. I find this setup to be the easiest to adjust from track to track. Just move the shocks around to add or remove steering. I also use congo yellow in the front sometimes.

For anyone running carpet, you can't go wrong with this setup. It's very smooth with good steering, but not overly agressive.

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Old 02-27-2002, 08:19 AM
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Does anyone know how much weight the Graphite conversion kit drops? Also can you use the short shafts with the stock sized bodies? My local LHS says this will work fine and that I will not need the short bodies.
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Old 02-27-2002, 08:47 AM
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Rich

Do you know what grade of Titanium that they use? I was looking at putting together a commercial pure grade 4 titanium kit.
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Old 02-27-2002, 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by ChristopherKee
My setup is close to yours, I use 57, 40w, black in the rear. And no swaybar up front. I find this setup to be the easiest to adjust from track to track. Just move the shocks around to add or remove steering. I also use congo yellow in the front sometimes.

For anyone running carpet, you can't go wrong with this setup. It's very smooth with good steering, but not overly agressive.

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I agree! Both of you have a setup close to mine. Except I am running 80wt shock oil all the way around. With the lighter shock oil how will that effect handling? I know others are running a similar setup at my local track. I am not running a swaybar either. The carpet I am running on is very old, and has a TON of traction.
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Old 02-27-2002, 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Ill Factor
Does anyone know how much weight the Graphite conversion kit drops? Also can you use the short shafts with the stock sized bodies? My local LHS says this will work fine and that I will not need the short bodies.
If I am not mistaken, one Ounce
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Old 02-27-2002, 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Doug Gaut
On the one-way questions. I had a problem with my outdrives after I installed the retaining rings because it squezed them a little and bound up on the ball. I took a flat file and removed a (very) small amount of material on both sides. It takes no time at all. Now everything is free. I built a second one this weekend for a friend and we didnt have the binding problem on the cvds but we did have a problem with a bind in the drivetrain. As we rotated the tires something would catch and bind up. I took the front end back apart and found that I had not completely tightened up the 3 screws that attach the bearings. I was worried about over tightening them but it is far worse to not have them totally tight. Once we tightened them all the way up everything was fine. BTW, we both have picked up over half a lap with the one-ways installed!!!
Now I have a question. What type of lube should be used on the one-way bearings? I used diff lube but was just wondering if there is something else I should be using?

Thanks Doug
I have used Racer's edge's one way lube. Some others use light oil and others say use nothing at all. The key is maintainence (regular cleaning) and to use a very very light coat of lube. The 1 way needle bearings need to be free to roll [i]and lock[i/]. If there's too much grease it'll prevent the needles from locking properly.
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Old 02-27-2002, 04:32 PM
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Titanium racing in the UK does a complete Ti screw set for 33. Ive not yet bought one but consider it to be good value for money at that price!!

Rich

Thanks for the info chownr.

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Old 02-27-2002, 06:06 PM
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Setup for stock, fairly tight track, long straight!

Front:

Natural piston
80 Weight oil
Blue springs
Shocks stock location
No Limiters
No Kickup
4 Degree caster blocks
Camber rod as long as possible
-1 degree of camber
0 Degree toe in or out
5mm Ride height
Xpress narrow tires HPI Black molded soft inserts

Rear:

Red piston
80 Weight oil
Blue springs
Shocks stock location
No limiters
No anti-squat
Camber rod as long as possible
-1 Degree of camber
1/2 Degree hub carriers, 2 1/2 Total
5mm Ride height
Xpress wide tires stock inserts

No one-way
Batteries Forward
Transponder in front window
Protoform Stratus body
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Old 02-27-2002, 09:23 PM
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Crash,

I this the setup you run at BS?
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Old 02-27-2002, 11:55 PM
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I havent got a clue what grade they use but Im sure if you e-mail them theyd be pleased to help

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