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Old 11-04-2004, 03:37 PM   #1981
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That is still 60 degrees cooler than florida!!!! I need to buy some new winter clothing to go there!!!!
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:08 PM   #1982
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There need to be more practice at a worlds. If you aren't dialed when you show up you are at a huge disadvantage. You get two days at a ROAR Nats the Worlds should be the same. 1/12th was way too hurry up and race too.

I hear the same complaint about Cleveland. If you are from the West or South East you are at a big disadvantage as all the tracks there run rubber on carpet and you can never get any real foam time.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:25 PM   #1983
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I hear the same complaint about Cleveland. If you are from the West or South East you are at a big disadvantage as all the tracks there run rubber on carpet and you can never get any real foam time.
Ohh thats right they dont sell foam tires in that part of the country..... Whats stoping you from going and getting some foams and racing them on the same carpet track that you race rubber tires on? Do all the carpet tracks only allow TC's to race with rubber tires????? If thats the case then 12th scale cars should have rubber tires for the same reason. This is a lame excuse.....just get out and practice or race with some foams on.....if you want to do well at a foam tire race. Just giving you the bizzness man.....hope to see you or PW at a foam tire race...lol


I do agree that there should be more track time for the drivers at the worlds.
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Old 11-04-2004, 04:44 PM   #1984
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So that's the Italian trackat Collegno that's going to be used in a couple of years. That should keep X Ray happy. It's big and blindingly fast, and not too far from home for them. So there shouldn't be any excuses this time.

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The air shot you have seen may be confusing about the track dimension.

The track is rather tecnical, you may find at this link http://www.rctouring.it some shots from taken at a racent national held there, so you may get a better idea.

I also attach here a shot taken from the rostrum.
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:39 PM   #1986
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There need to be more practice at a worlds. If you aren't dialed when you show up you are at a huge disadvantage. You get two days at a ROAR Nats the Worlds should be the same. 1/12th was way too hurry up and race too.

I hear the same complaint about Cleveland. If you are from the West or South East you are at a big disadvantage as all the tracks there run rubber on carpet and you can never get any real foam time.
More practice? Are you crazy. We already qualify longer than F1 and real forms of racing. In any race real or RC if you aren't dialed you aren't going to win. If I'm not mistaken FTS is a permanent track and teams could have spent more time there before the event testing. No way should there be more practice at the event. The length of these events are getting out of hand already.

EDIT: I had to add this story because I thought it was funny. I was racing with Pavidis and he showed up early to practice and when I told my girlfriend about that she asked why he was there early. When I told her to practice her reply was "Practice? I thought he was a professional"...lol

Also while I'm sure the setups are different for rubber and foam, but good driver are good drivers. They'll be just as good with the ungodly amount of traction foams supply as on rubber tires. And the great thing about Ozite is that if you really want you can buy it and test on it and the conditions will be just about the same everywhere.
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surely so long as all involved get equal amounts of practice time then it doens't matter if that time is 2 minutes or 2 weeks !
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:43 PM   #1988
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I hear the same complaint about Cleveland. If you are from the West or South East you are at a big disadvantage as all the tracks there run rubber on carpet and you can never get any real foam time.
I don't really think that's the case any more. I live in Virginia, and I don't know of any place you can run rubber tires on carpet. Never personally seen it myself. I'm sure there are still places doing it, but there are less and less people even running rubbers on pavement these days, much less carpet.

Plus I hear a couple guys from the South East usually make it to Snowbirds.

It's true that ozite is the same from club to club, but it's nothing like the traction at Cleveland or Snowbirds by the time mains roll around. When it comes to carpet racing, the only way to truly be prepared for the big events is to GO to the big races. There are a ton of guys with plenty of foam tire on carpet experience. But there are only a handful that have a whole lot of experience with the crazy, black groove traction that you get when there are thousands of laps ran on a track for a week straight.
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Old 11-04-2004, 08:53 PM   #1989
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Maybe for you Virginia guys... but we still run rubber tires on asphalt down at the "Wood"! Of course, we "were" a Roar Track.... I'm not so sure now.

Anyways... bitch, moan, gripe, blah blah blah... Hey... it's just a hobby..
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1. Open can of paragon.
2. Pour into sprayer
3. spray track carpet.
4. scrub in/run cars
5. race on said layout for several weeks

instant big race traction.

( I cannot be held responsible for what happens when you try this. )
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Lostallo must be the worlds biggest and longest track. Itīs hughe. Even for a 1/8 gas car or a 1/5. Just wonder who will be able to spot a 1/12 there..... The weather between the alps is kind of unsure as well.:nod
Can somebody tell me what track the 1/5th worlds was at cause it looked like the biggest track in the world i would be seriously suprised if there was something bigger i believe it would of taken up 75% of a football field

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I like the minimal practice given at the Worlds and the way it is done in Europe. They get like two practice runs and then they race. It is all about who can adapt faster than the other guy. The really true talents usually rise to the occasion.
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Andreas ---I thought you were going to japan this week...
Andreas is leaving for Japan tomorrow
I will go there and catch up little later
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I have to agree with Anders here; what's the point having a warm up then !

Rangulo's comment about X Ray's arm twisting - or rather, let's be kind to them and call it persuading attitude is not surprising. They really thought they had the Worlds all wrapped up, didn't they.

So that's the Italian trackat Collegno that's going to be used in a couple of years. That should keep X Ray happy. It's big and blindingly fast, and not too far from home for them. So there shouldn't be any excuses this time.

At the end of the day the best drivers with the best cars made the A final and won. And yes, Mark R is certainly among the best, if not the very best. [/B]
Letīs calm down a bit please. My impression is that every driver in the Xray camp was happy with the track. No one use that as an agrument for the result. I+m not so sure the result was that bad either. The discussion was why there was such a different in the layout so we this time have to use the spool instead of one-way. It cost a lot of money to send a team from Europe to USA for a warm-up race that in the end did nothing but gave the wrong input. This was the reason Xray teamed up at the warm-up and not the Reedyrace, where spool is used.
I donīt think there is anyone at all who donīt think Marc deserve his victory either. And why should we? He was the best. Period.
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Pics of the new losi from the worlds are up.
More to come soon with some interesting details of the winning car.

BTW- Marc was phenomenal. Smoothest driver of the event. I am watching the vids I took from qualifying including his best lap of 12.4 sec. It just seems so slow because his driving is so smooth.
Amazing!!
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