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Old 11-02-2004, 09:49 AM   #1831
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I think one advantage maybe the Europeans and Asians have over the US drivers is that the guys who race in California for example probably race on more or less the same track and same conditions all the time. MAYBE in Asia and Europe-they travel to many different types of tracks with lots of variation in temperature, track surface, etc.

We Americans see cool pics of tracks overseas and they look nothing like they do here. Kissimee's track in fact is very European, maybe giving the other drivers an advantage over us in this case.

Could it be that ff the Worlds were held in a parking lot track-the US might fair better? Hmmmmm-maybe not Hara won the ROAR nats too.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:09 AM   #1832
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WORLDS UPS AND DOWNS.

TAMIYA. Everybody knew Mark R is quick but I don't think anybody expected him to be that quick and that consistant. I don't think many people thought he'd beat Surikarn. Verdict - UP.

HPI. Hara is reputed to be the quickest thing after Michael Schumacher. He lived up to his reputation, but he was harried all the way by team mate Diasuke. Let's be honest, how many of us would have put bets on Diasuke making the A. Second and third at the worlds has definately got to be - UP.

YOKOMO. Yoke only had 2 official works drivers at the Worlds and they both finished in the A. Masami is brilliant - everybody knows that. Easton was the best number 2 you could have. They ran consistantly in the top 10 all week. Very impressive for a relatively small team. Verdict - UP.

BARRACUDA. After X Ray, reputedly the biggest works team at the Worlds. Somesaid the new car was the best thing since sliced bread. I'm not too sure they even managed to get a car in the C, let alone the A. Verdict - DOWN.
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Marc Rheinard had beaten Surikarn. I can't remember how many times, but at least the last 2004 LRP Masters.

Perhaps Daisuke is not well known outside Japan because he doesn't travel as much as Atsushi. But for us in Asia, we'd never discount Daisuke. He was the leading HPI factory driver long before Atsushi joined HPI. He's won numerous JMRCA Japan National titles. Last year he won the 1:12 (when Masami didn't participate) and finished 3rd in the :10 touring Expert. If you look at last year JMRCA video, he was the one attacking Masami most. He also beat Masami in one of the qualifying rounds.
a veteran racer and definitely among the very best in Japan.

Yokomo indeed sent only 2 works drivers. Perhaps they want to focus on these two. But they gave ALL their best to support the two. Masami, alone, had three mechanics. One doing the battery management - a well known drivers in Japan - among the Yokomo team known as Mr. Eleven, because he seemed to miss the Japan Nats A Main year after year and would qualify in 11th for several years a row. Another guy setting up Masami's car is last year Japan National double Off Road Champions (2WD & 4WD) and regular top 10 Ep racing drivers - also the Yatabe Arena Manager. then the 'Pit Man' is another highly popular name (Y. Umino)-former HPI, Tech Racing etc. also numerous Japan Nats Champions - last year he won the 1:10 EP (2WD) Racing class.
S. Adachi was not able to join due to visa problems.

I am not sure if we could say Barracuda was the largest works team after X-Ray
They had only 3 works drivers.
Associated, Losi, Schumacher certainly had more than 3 drivers. Tamiya TRF had at least 5, HPI Japan alone had 6 drivers
But yeah.. they expected better results, so did some other bigger teams
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:14 AM   #1833
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Could it be that ff the Worlds were held in a parking lot track-the US might fair better? Hmmmmm-maybe not Hara won the ROAR nats too.
well I dont know about the whole country liking PK lot tracks. But I know for a fact that all the southern cali drivers do. had a nice permenent track thats just stopped its racing program for the rest of the year due to lack of racer participation. I think Hara lives in cali now so i guess that explains his win at the Nats
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:15 AM   #1834
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wouldnt the reasoning behind that be that in most cases parkinglot tracks can be much bigger than permanent tracks?
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You have to figure there is going to be some secrets at the Worlds. Beside a lot of the manufacturers make one-off cars just to suit the track they are on. And for them to give away secrets? Get real. You don't see the NASCAR teams say, "here everyone want to see the engine tweaks we did to get more power out of this engine," after they have won.
Most of it is mind games. How to psyche out the guy you are racing. Since the companies use prototype parts, original chassis, etc, for these races it can be a crapshoot. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't. This is where 90% of your upgrades come from. National and world races. And no company wants the others to know how they improved their car. As soon as someone improves something, there are 20 other companies that want to follow the same design if they can, for cheaper. It's a prestige and a business thing. There will always be some secrets at these races.
The impressive thing to me is when someone wins without all of the "special mods". That is truly a sign of a great car and driver.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:27 AM   #1836
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How about the theory that the overseas drivers were just better prepared for this race. I think too many of the USA drivers were using too new of a car and did not have enough time on on their cars so therefore they were not as prepared. Just look at how they improved each day where as the over seas drivers were fast and consistant from day one.

Just my 2 cents.

Unfortunately it happens way too much to USA fans thinking that USA competitors just need to show up and they will dominate. I don't mean any disrespect to anyone but just look at what the USA did in the last couple of olympics. No mens soccor team, no mens baseball team, and the basketball team got spanked.

I think that if you ask many of the USA drivers they would tell you they weren't well enough prepared, or they were fatigued because of the busy schedule leading up to this race. Many of them run offroad and onroad.

again just my 2 cents.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:34 AM   #1837
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Uh um last time I checked the US did awsome at the last olympics!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:37 AM   #1838
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SLOWHAND.

Thanks on the very interesting inside info on Team Yokomo.

Thanks also on the info on Daisuke. As you say he is not well known in European circles because he doesn't travel much. I have a feeling that is about to change now, don't you? He certainly deserves more recognition.

Re Barracuda, I read in one of the forums that they were sending a very strong team of at least 5 drivers to the Worlds. Hideo Kitizawa is certainly brilliant so the car must have been very much off the pace for him to get no higher than the D final.

I know the D looked like a who's who of RC racing but that was because people like Barry B kept "falling off"!

I formed most of my conclusions also taking into account most drivers single fastest runs. For example Barry B, Chris Toso, one of the Ahoniemi brothers, Andrew Moore and others all did very quick runs at sometime or other. They just didn't manage to string together 4 quick runs, which was what was required to qualify well.

What we need is an International standard that is recognised by all countries - same type tracks, same car measurements, same tyre type etc. Then and only then will we see the world's best all racing on an equal footing.

But if what I'm hearing about groups breaking away from IFMAR is anything to go by then we'll be going further away from a united front rather than closer, which is a pity.

Just my thoughts.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:38 AM   #1839
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I think US drivers did fine considering there are 3 (counting Hara as he lives in the US now) in the A-main which is not out of proportion considering the size of population of Europe and Asia.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:39 AM   #1840
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Uh um last time I checked the US did awsome at the last olympics!!!!!!!!
Yes they did but not in the sports that most fans think they should dominate in. I should have clearified that in making my comparison.

I am not trying to start anything and I am definately not trying to put down the American drivers because they are awesome drivers, it just might not have been their year.
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I recently had the opportunity to preview the KO Propo GP DVD that the guys are producing and it contains an interview with Billy Easton. He shares some of his thoughts regarding the international race scene along with what's going on in the US and after visiting Japan, I completely agree with him.

I kind of have to disagree about P-lot racing. Yes, it's an inexpensive way to host a race program and have fun. But what we need are more high quality, professional level "race circuits". Carpet doesn't count
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:41 AM   #1842
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Just so everyne knows-I am not promoting p-lot racing-just stating that I think we do a lot of it.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:43 AM   #1843
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hey the best of the best of the best from the U.S.A. was there and I applaud them Good job guys
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I'll go with the new car thing. Sometimes inexperience with a new car can be quite troublesome, until you can find out everything it can do. Part of the reason why I don't change cars on a whim because some sponsored driver won the worlds with it. I'm not into this "keeping up with the Joneses".
Fatigue and race schedule does play a part. And with some drivers moving all the time from team to team. That can't be good for their racing consistancy.
As for cars. I could have gotten a 415 when I bought my car. But aluminum turnbuckles??? I think that was one BIG disadvantage to the car. And I didn't want to spend even more money for the titanium ones when there are plenty of other cars (HPI, Yokomo, AE, Losi) that come with them for less $$$. Besides, when it comes down to it, you can have the greatest car in the world. But if you can't drive it or finish a race, you won't do well. I'm not one that goes for less weight in critical stress areas and weaken the car just to be faster. Remember you break you don't win. I'll keep with my Losi.
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ASSOCIATED. AE expected better things from their "works" drivers but if you look closely you will see that they certainly had the speed - just lacked in driver consistancy. Nevertheless young Yuho proved that the new TC4 is certainly a force to be reckoned with, making a brilliant 5th overall. Verdict - UP.
I Understand that Berry Baker was still sick from the brazil race. So that might account for something?
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