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Old 07-20-2011, 04:53 PM   #61
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Here is a pic of my 50/50. A friend of mine has my CS, and yes + ackerman is no good for drifting.



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Old 07-20-2011, 04:54 PM   #62
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I'm done debating. Have a nice day!!!
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:56 PM   #63
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debating? here it is again. You do know what it means right?


For those who favor the cornering characteristics of an Ackerman steering system (front wheels turn at different angles to follow different turning radii) over the kit-standard parallel steering geometry (front wheels turn at same angle), Tamiya is offering this option part to convert your machine to your tastes.

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Set includes:
Steering connector rod x1
FF-03 Steering Arm (R) x1
TB-03 Steering Arm (L) x1
Metal parts bag (screws, washers, ball connectors, shims etc.) x 1
Only compatible with TA05-VDF chassis (Item 84132).
Note: Item 54250 3x42mm Aluminum Turnbuckle Shaft (2pcs.) is required for attachment. (Sold separately.)
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Old 07-20-2011, 04:58 PM   #64
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Those pics are pointless, because you dont even show the ackerman set installed with the wheels cocked full lock to show the difference in scrub angle.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:02 PM   #65
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It's obvious you know nothing about what you're talking about. If the ackerman set provides less ackerman for drifting, how come NOBODY in the drift community uses them? end of discussion.
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When I get my car back on Monday I'll post up some pics.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:05 PM   #67
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It's obvious you know nothing about what you're talking about. If the ackerman set provides less ackerman for drifting, how come NOBODY in the drift community uses them? end of discussion.
been doing this for 27 years. Your right I know nothing. Have a nice day!!
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:11 PM   #68
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It's obvious you know nothing about what you're talking about. If the ackerman set provides less ackerman for drifting, how come NOBODY in the drift community uses them? end of discussion.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:21 PM   #69
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straight from the horse's mouth. You keep ignoring this:


For those who favor the cornering characteristics of an Ackerman steering system (front wheels turn at different angles to follow different turning radii) over the kit-standard parallel steering geometry (front wheels turn at same angle), Tamiya is offering this option part to convert your machine to your tastes.
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Old 07-20-2011, 05:31 PM   #70
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LMAO. That video shows massive positive ackerman. You're proving my point.
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I apologize for my dislexia. I stand corrected.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:18 PM   #72
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I hate the Gold Ackerman kit because I can't find a matching gold turnbuckle!

Ackerman gives more angle to inside wheel but the amount of travel will vary depending on many different things, servos, steering arm lengths, tire size, type of front hubs, type of control arms, and etc... Turbolard/Gashuffer! both of you need to end the ackerman debate! It obvious you both have different style in driving and prefer different set ups. I'd leave it at that and just enjoy Rc drifting. IMO i would rather you guys do battle + ackerman vs parallel and the winner win the losers car? lol

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Old 07-21-2011, 09:15 AM   #73
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There is no debate. Gashuffer's claim that ackerman steering set reduces ackerman is totally untrue. It's not my fault I had to keep repeating myself.
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I hate the Gold Ackerman kit because I can't find a matching gold turnbuckle!

Ackerman gives more angle to inside wheel but the amount of travel will vary depending on many different things, servos, steering arm lengths, tire size, type of front hubs, type of control arms, and etc... Turbolard/Gashuffer! both of you need to end the ackerman debate! It obvious you both have different style in driving and prefer different set ups. I'd leave it at that and just enjoy Rc drifting. IMO i would rather you guys do battle + ackerman vs parallel and the winner win the losers car? lol
I was thinking backwards and I was wrong. I admit it. It happens, I also admit to giving tubolard the run around. and thats wrong too so sorry for that.

Did somebody say BATTLE!!! I'm game when and where!! I can use another car like I need a hole in the head!!
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in my opinion drifters use ackerman for the realistc look in RC drifting, if you really look at, ackerman was thought of for high speed turning, we slide with little grip, it just looks sexy, I know a bunch of non-technical drifters that have no idea what ackerman is, yet there set-up is killer on the track, just my two cents, not contradicting anyone here!





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