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Old 04-22-2010, 06:13 PM   #1
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With the TRF201 1/10 buggy gearbox coming and the announcement of the FF03 front wheel drive touring car, could a rear wheel drive touring car be far behind from Tamiya?

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With the TRF201 1/10 buggy gearbox coming and the announcement of the FF03 front wheel drive touring car, could a rear wheel drive touring car be far behind from Tamiya?

It's not hard to visualize looking at the following pics.

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That would be a real bad idea.
You should not mess with different chassis layouts in one same category.
Wheelbase is OK but that's it.
When you allow FWD and RWD to run together an RWD will win on any high grip track and FWD in the wet or on a slippery track. People will need 2 chassis to be competitive and a more experienced racer will do donuts around a newcomer with an FWD. In real 1 scale racing they try to keep the difference between and RWD BMW and the rest of the field as equal as possible. Another thing is that in WTCC you can not change from FWD to RWD when ever U like. An RWD or 4WD is allways more difficult to master. FWD should stay FWD.
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That would be a real bad idea.
You should not mess with different chassis layouts in one same category.
Wheelbase is OK but that's it.
When you allow FWD and RWD to run together an RWD will win on any high grip track and FWD in the wet or on a slippery track. People will need 2 chassis to be competitive and a more experienced racer will do donuts around a newcomer with an FWD. In real 1 scale racing they try to keep the difference between and RWD BMW and the rest of the field as equal as possible. Another thing is that in WTCC you can not change from FWD to RWD when ever U like. An RWD or 4WD is allways more difficult to master. FWD should stay FWD.
Huh? When did I say anything anywhere about running them together?
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That would be a real bad idea.
You should not mess with different chassis layouts in one same category.
Wheelbase is OK but that's it.
When you allow FWD and RWD to run together an RWD will win on any high grip track and FWD in the wet or on a slippery track. People will need 2 chassis to be competitive and a more experienced racer will do donuts around a newcomer with an FWD. In real 1 scale racing they try to keep the difference between and RWD BMW and the rest of the field as equal as possible. Another thing is that in WTCC you can not change from FWD to RWD when ever U like. An RWD or 4WD is allways more difficult to master. FWD should stay FWD.
You want an easy way to cut costs, make everyone commit to either rwd or fwd at the beginning of the series or season and no changing without a penalty
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Huh? When did I say anything anywhere about running them together?
My bad. I think it is (for an RC car) to similar to 4WD car in terms of car control. We have to many categories allready. RWD would work in stock but it would be stupid to have a stock FWD and a stock RWD class. I allso am of the oppinion that you need specific chassis for each class. So you need an other driving style for each category: FWD stock, 4WD mod, RWD foam F1 and so on. Not like it is now: 4WD 13.5, 4WD 17.5, 4WD mod, 4WD 13.5 foam, 4WD 17.5 foam, 4WD mod foam and so on. A driver that wins in one of the 4WD classes you will see a lot of time that he wins different motor classes becouse the switch is to easy.
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To have another car is all good, most just play around and never race.

Minis have run both fwd (M03, M05) and rwd (M02,MO4) together for over a decade. More fun watching a race with variety in chassis and bodies.
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it would be sweet to have a rwd touring car I've wanted one since I've been rc'ng
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With the TRF201 1/10 buggy gearbox coming and the announcement of the FF03 front wheel drive touring car, could a rear wheel drive touring car be far behind from Tamiya?

It's not hard to visualize looking at the following pics.

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i like the fwd but tamiya should make it where you can switch gearbox to back or front???? nah dream on!! lol
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it would be sweet to have a rwd touring car I've wanted one since I've been rc'ng
Pretty much any AWD TC can be converted into RWD by removing front dogbones, belts, diff etc.
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Pretty much any AWD TC can be converted into RWD by removing front dogbones, belts, diff etc.
or vice versa for fwd! nice idea
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Yes but for FWD the weight should be toward the front, unfortunately most modern TC have the motor mid-rear.
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Pretty much any AWD TC can be converted into RWD by removing front dogbones, belts, diff etc.
Ask yourself why any 2wd car (of any class) isn't just a 4wd minus some parts. 2wd buggy vs 4wd buggy is a good example. It just doesn't work because:

- the weight balance is all wrong
- the suspension geometry is all wrong
-....its just all wrong!

Sure it ''works'' in the loosest possible terms, as starts, stops and steers, but designing something for the purpose would be a million times better.
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The Tamiya F103GT is a RWD car. you can probably join the local touring classes with that one.
Its not legal at the IFMAR and EFRA races since the rules states that the car must have independent suspension on all four wheels. In my opinion the stupidest rule of all the rules in touring car.

I mean if you can keep up with a car that has the same weight but less wheel travel and less forward traction and less braking its deserved!

all you need to do to get a touring car body on th F103GT is to buy that kit from 3racing and you can mount any touring body.

http://www.etamiya.com/shop/tamiya-f...-10000885.html
http://www.etamiya.com/shop/tamiya-f...-10000886.html

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i've been waiting many years for a RWD Sedan (with similar Modern Suspension Geometry and components you see on todays 4wd Touring Cars).. Time to get away from the PanCars... Its frickin 2010 for crying out loud...
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Pretty much any AWD TC can be converted into RWD by removing front dogbones, belts, diff etc.
yea but they don't seem to work properly when you do that..I've tried many times before
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