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Old 02-18-2010, 01:36 PM   #1
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Questions?? TC5r handling issues

Hey guys heres what i have: TC5r, sorex 28s, tekin RS (203 program) and a 94362z servo- my issue is when i corner a lot of the time my car is on 2 wheels.. how can i get it to stay more planted?? I had 0 degree blocks in the front and this made it pretty twitchy on the straights and super hard cornering, I switched to 6 degree blockes and it tamed it down a lot in the straightaway but i dont have the cornering like i would like.. any ideas??
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Hey guys heres what i have: TC5r, sorex 28s, tekin RS (203 program) and a 94362z servo- my issue is when i corner a lot of the time my car is on 2 wheels.. how can i get it to stay more planted?? I had 0 degree blocks in the front and this made it pretty twitchy on the straights and super hard cornering, I switched to 6 degree blockes and it tamed it down a lot in the straightaway but i dont have the cornering like i would like.. any ideas??
What's the rest of your setup?

front & rear toe
springs
sway bars
droop
etc.
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OK heres my set up:
Front-
0 degree toe
0 degree camber
6 degree caster blocks
+3 droop
gold springs 35wt oil
no sway bars

Rear-
4 degree toe in (2 degree each side)
0 degree camber
+3 droop
Blue springs 30wt oil
No sway bars

also i am running a mazda 6 body
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You may need swaybars. Have you tried them before?
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I did, however i talked to a few of the local "fast" guys and they are all running without them.. thats why im not. cant be differerent ya know! haha
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setup car to run with the stock tc5r settings... once there you can tweak it a little to your driving preference. But if others are running the same car at the track just ask them for their setup..
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I believe they are all running a Corrally car. i think.. im not sure how different those are compared to my associated?
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I believe they are all running a Corrally car. i think.. im not sure how different those are compared to my associated?
Top and Xray actually and yeah each car requires a little bit of different stuff (as well as each driver, each track, etc).

Try Blue springs in front, green in rear. 45wt oil front and 35wt rear. 1.5 degrees camber all the way around.
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Or8ital: HaHa! That's funny how you put Xray on there. Which fast guy at our track is running an Xray?! As far as I know all the fast guys are running TOP!

On a serious note: Rooster, Tim does have good advice on your TC5 he had that car and ran it at our track for a while so he "should" know what works and what doesn't with that car.


I would leave the oil the same. The lighter oil is good for our track since we don't really have that much bite. It's usually low to medium bite. The light oil will keep your car easy to drive. I would go back to 4 degree caster blocks. Work with your shock positions, the outer holes on the tower will make the car react quicker and leaning them down will make it lean more but less agressive. I would run some camber. Probably 1.5 in the front and 2.0 in the rear. I would run the high rollcenters, the camberlinks long and in the middle but in the rear of the hub use the inside hole. If you rebuild the shocks build them with little or no rebound. When you say you have 4 degrees of toe you really only have 2. Don't total the amount from left and right. It's just 2. Now...you should run more than than, at least 2.5 maybe 3. It will plant your rear end down and will tone down your steering this way. If you run the high rollcenter you shouldn't need the swaybars. Try that. I will hopefully be there Sunday and so will Junior and we'll see who's at the top at the end of the day, the Xrays or the TOP's!

Almost forgot. Run some bumpsteer on your knuckles to smooth out the steering. 1mm is good but even 2mm will work.

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Or8ital: HaHa! That's funny how you put Xray on there. Which fast guy at our track is running an Xray?! As far as I know all the fast guys are running TOP!
I was speaking of Junior and Hunter.

Of the top 6 there regularly it is 3 TOP (you, Junior, Ryan) and 3 Xray (me, Hunter, Mike). You and Junior skew the results though.
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You and Jim racing Sunday?
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Jim is last I heard, I am if my ESC arrives tomorrow or Sat. Not sure if it will or not.
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OK heres my set up:
Front-
0 degree toe
0 degree camber
6 degree caster blocks
+3 droop
gold springs 35wt oil
no sway bars

Rear-
4 degree toe in (2 degree each side)
0 degree camber
+3 droop
Blue springs 30wt oil
No sway bars

also i am running a mazda 6 body
First add camber to the back and front. Put like 2.5 in the back and 1.5 up front.

Also, lower your dual rate a little, you may have to small of a turning radius.
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OK heres my set up:
Front-
0 degree toe
0 degree camber
6 degree caster blocks
+3 droop
gold springs 35wt oil
no sway bars

Rear-
4 degree toe in (2 degree each side)
0 degree camber
+3 droop
Blue springs 30wt oil
No sway bars

also i am running a mazda 6 body
I would start by changing to -1.5* camber front and rear, and change your droop setting to 2mm of uptravel.

After that, start tuning spring rate and toe in. The rear toe setting seems a little aggressive to me. If you still lack steering after you've changed some other things about your setup, take some toe out of the rear end.

One last thing. I would suggest at least 0.5* of front toe out. It helps keep the car more stable on corner entry, and it seems to clean up any slop you might have after your suspention parts become a bit worn.
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u can try going up one spring rate both front a rear and go to 2mm or droop insted of 3

i had the same problem and this helped me
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