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Old 12-07-2010, 06:31 AM   #16
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Kawada makes GT bodies that fit 1/12 scale pan cars... You'll have to fab the body posts, but they make the Lexus SC430, the Honda HSV 10, and a few others... http://www.rceasy.com/2007/11/20/kawada-m300gt-2/



The M300GT is 210mm wheel base,the bodies only fit M-Chassis size cars.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:36 PM   #17
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I had a Nissan 300zx body several years back. Can't remember who made it, I think it was made by AE

Anybody got an Associated Jaguar GTP body NIB for sale. Or trade for AE TOJ NIB?
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Hi I'm looking for the old TOJ 12 scale bodies if anyone has any idea
Hi mate, give Wim a call at Action Model Centre, here in the UK. I know for a fact he has a pile of them as I got one myself recently. Cheers.
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If there is serious interest in a VTA-style class (read: SLOW) for a sedan or vintage type class as a support for VTA, I have been contemplating this for a couple of years now.

I have access to BRAND new bodies that would workówith a Monza GT, Greenwood Corvette, Porsche 935, Porsche 911 Mercedes GT, Datsun 280Z, Mazda RX7 Turbo. We could have an endless supply if it was warranted.

A 21.5 on 1s (or 4-cell) would be perfect. Minimum tire diameters, fixed gear ratio window and a simple conceptójust like the USVTA concept. Could be pretty special for a 1/12th scale resurrection, but it might not have the legs of something like the VTA, just because there aren't nearly enough 1/12th scale cars out there running.

It can be done fairly easily, if there was enough reason to do it. I have been thinking about pulling the trigger on something like this for a while now. If the support was there...
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I personaly would love the concept but I doubt that it would be very popular; most guys like 1/12 for the speed and agility of the class. Its been called the F1 of RC for that reason; but if you ever do pull some of those I'd be interested in a couple just for some of my old self queen i's and l's.
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Squarehead, how's the real world performance of those bodies, as far as traction, down force, etc. Which body performs the best?

Interested in the Vette and Monza.
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I have not done any real-world testing on them for handling, but I would imagine that the cars would not be all that difficult to drive at a very reduced speed (hence the 21.5 and gear/tire restrictions).

The main reason I never pulled the trigger on it while I was still running the USVTA was that I feared that the support wasn't there enough for standard 1/12th scale racing, and that it wold be a hard sell to the guys who already did it. I did show the bodies I had to a few guys at a regional VTA race, though (I was the guy in Kevin K's post above), and the initial response was VERY positive, but that was to an audience who had already embraced the VTA concept and was very interested in "scale racing" instead of R/C racing.

The Monza GT is gorgeous and the Greenwood Corvettes look fantastic if trimmed properly.



It really could be something fun, but I don't see it being anything more than niche regional racing.
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Maybe if there was a car to go with the bodies, like a Mardave...

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I would be interested in the class. I like the 280, Monza and especially the the Vette. If I were to make a suggestion on the governing of the class it would be to allow any 21.5 or silver can johnson brushed motor, any non boosting programable or timing advancing esc, a set tire compound and no size limit to maximize tire life and lower cost, 800g min weight limit.

Not rying to hijack your idea but my thoughts to make it more affordable to anyone that has old esc's and cars that would be competitive again.

I will pitch the idea at our track to drum up some interest.

I race 1/12 mod and 17.5 now, but I would love the idea of a true spec onroad 1/12 instead of VTA. I have a T force and an old 3.2 Knife that I would like to run again.
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I would take anything into consideration if there was interest EXCEPT silvercans. More trouble than they are worth, and they aren't really worth anything, except to people who really enjoy cheating with cheap, crappy brushed motors.
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I would take anything into consideration if there was interest EXCEPT silvercans. More trouble than they are worth, and they aren't really worth anything, except to people who really enjoy cheating with cheap, crappy brushed motors.
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Well I was able o talk to some guys at the track and some seemed interested at the idea. I guess I was being naive about the can motors, I thought the days of people cheating were over. Your right it only takes a one bad apple to ruin the pie. 21.5's are good for me as I was looking for a way older brush systems could be used again for those that may have them in an effort to make costs low and increase participation.
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Low cost = brushless + LiPo. Racing with 15 year old obsolete electronics isn't what most people want to do—we proved that with the USVTA over time. It's Pollyanna thinking that entry-level racers will be able to pick up old chassis and gear and go race for only a few bucks, but it isn't realistic to think that people will flock to a new class with vintage bodies and run old technology electronics just because they are cheap. It just isn't the reason that people are drawn to a class like this (potentially).

Cost-effective racing today is no maintenance motors, low maintenance batteries with low-wear tires and high quality track time. Slow speeds to level the playing field, low downforce to make it not about body selection or aero factors, and drivable cars that everyone can enjoy.

Sounds like a formula that has already worked at least once.




Rob, you might be on to something with the Mardave chassis. Now, if it were only readily available in the US.
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