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Old 02-15-2010, 11:51 AM   #1
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ive got a cyclone s and i have lil to no grip in the rear, and it turns wide.

i have played with camber, and shock oil and springs but still it slides around on me. a small drift is ok. im only running clubs races right now.

im gear at 85s 23p and its pushing the car right where i want it with the motor i have in it. its just grip is what its lacking. i using paragon traction action and its not really do me much good. frist two laps a lil dirt get on them and thats the end of grip the rear end slides right out form under it.

its parking lot racing just to let you know
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:09 PM   #2
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Need to know a bit more about your car and track before anyone can offer good help.
For the car set-up, is it near factory settings? If not go back to scratch, set it up like factory, and get the right tires. Tires is racing Usually asking the fast guys what they run and copying them is a good start!

What sort of track? Indoor/outdoor, carpet/asphalt/hardwood, large track/small, etc
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Old 02-15-2010, 12:27 PM   #3
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the track is out side and its a parking lot. i race off road but the track has been to wet to race.

and its set up right out of the boxfor the most part, but i am running a 5.5 brushless in it. i do know when it cold you want to run soft tries to get me grip and as the day heats up change to harder tires.

and that faster guys im only off but like .2 form them times the car spins on the u truns


set up right now it stock springs, 35w oil set at the 2nd hole on the arm and on shock tower. i have 3o of camber with top of the tire pointing in. running the stock hot body's slick. the spacers on the hub is one on each side stock deffs and bearings.
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You may want to try increasing your ride height slightly, or standing up the rear shocks. More height (ore upright shocks) = more body roll = more side bite
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Old 02-15-2010, 01:54 PM   #5
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didnt think about that next time i get track time i will have to try that.
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Stock kit cyclone tires are not the best--unless it's 85*I have not found them to be much good at all- I run jaco green or blue or sorex 28.and trinity tire sauce,
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You can also try put some more weight in the rear. in helped me alot when i needed grip.


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As said, tyres are #1 to look at. If you got the wrong tyres on, no amount of setup change will make the car hook up.

#2 make sure you do not have your front suspension set too hard, if you are racing on a low grip track, you could try soft tyres, softer front suspension, and harder rear, 3 hole pistons.

This may make the car scrub speed in corners, but should give you more turn in

#3 When you are happy with your tyre choice, experiment with a 1 degree front toe out, 3 degree rear toe in.
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