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yellow15 06-19-2005 03:15 PM

i've got my L4 for a few weeks now and still learning how to drive it. I've raced it both indoor and outdoor once so far and really loving it. Unfortunately i still have handling issues that i don't know how to fix.

Anyway, yesterday i raced at our local outdoor track. I used a brand new set of Jaco tyres. (purple front and pink rear), the first race the handling was okie and i had a few crashes but still managed to came 2nd. I swapped the rear left/right tyre before the next race.. but then from 2nd race, my car doesn't really like to do left turns. everytime i turn left, i have to really slow down my car or it'll just understeer a lot. It turns right with no problem at all and is very sensitive. so i wonder why is it and how to fix it? the tweak screws are adjusted properly. All the wheels spin freely and i don't see anythign wrong/broken.

Motor is a 8 turn double (getting a V2 9x2), steering exp is -45% and steering throw is symetrical. Toe-in is about 1-2 degree each side. Camber is about -1 degree on both side. I'm using the thicker T-bar at the moment with 0.22 springs.

I've got similar problem at my first indoor race so i really want to find out what is going wrong with my car..

my 2nd question, since i've decided to race both on carpet and outdoor.. i wonder if there is a setting that is OKIE for both? I don't mind changing the front springs everytime as it's only a 5-10 mins job but changing the T-Bar seems to be too trouble and i have to take half the car apart... so what would you guys suggest me to do?

Thanks a lot.

Thraex 06-19-2005 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by dakrat
i havent seen a corally with regular steering linkage so i have no idea. why did u switch it? corally has the best steering linkage IMO. it has a slop that makes it run straight and give u maximum steering on corners.

I'm using the "AE style" steering linkage because I wanted to try something different. The corally steering linkage is really good, but it has 0 dergees ackermann, and I wanted to play with that. That's why I changed it, now I can adjust the ackermann better. I haven't really tried it out yet, so I can't say if it's better or not.

About that hara car, that's based on a Kawada and the rear end is also made by them. As far as I know most of the purple anodized parts he has are custom made.

Crashby 06-19-2005 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by yellow15
i've got my L4 for a few weeks now and still learning how to drive it. I've raced it both indoor and outdoor once so far and really loving it. Unfortunately i still have handling issues that i don't know how to fix.

Anyway, yesterday i raced at our local outdoor track. I used a brand new set of Jaco tyres. (purple front and pink rear), the first race the handling was okie and i had a few crashes but still managed to came 2nd. I swapped the rear left/right tyre before the next race.. but then from 2nd race, my car doesn't really like to do left turns. everytime i turn left, i have to really slow down my car or it'll just understeer a lot. It turns right with no problem at all and is very sensitive. so i wonder why is it and how to fix it? the tweak screws are adjusted properly. All the wheels spin freely and i don't see anythign wrong/broken.

Motor is a 8 turn double (getting a V2 9x2), steering exp is -45% and steering throw is symetrical. Toe-in is about 1-2 degree each side. Camber is about -1 degree on both side. I'm using the thicker T-bar at the moment with 0.22 springs.

I've got similar problem at my first indoor race so i really want to find out what is going wrong with my car..

my 2nd question, since i've decided to race both on carpet and outdoor.. i wonder if there is a setting that is OKIE for both? I don't mind changing the front springs everytime as it's only a 5-10 mins job but changing the T-Bar seems to be too trouble and i have to take half the car apart... so what would you guys suggest me to do?

Thanks a lot.

Turning tighter radius in one direction more than the other is a classic sign that the car is tweaked.

Anytime you swap tires from one side to the other, it is essential that you recheck the tweak in the car, meaning that when you lift the front of the car at the center of the chassis, both tires should come off the surface at the same time. Because foam tires wear unevenly due to track layouts (more right turns than left turns or high speed sweeping corners) the tweak gets off. Always get in the habit of checking your tweak before every run. It should become a pre-race routine. At important races, I will re-true the tires before every run and then check the tweak.

odpurple 06-19-2005 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Crashby
Turning tighter radius in one direction more than the other is a classic sign that the car is tweaked.

Anytime you swap tires from one side to the other, it is essential that you recheck the tweak in the car, meaning that when you lift the front of the car at the center of the chassis, both tires should come off the surface at the same time. Because foam tires wear unevenly due to track layouts (more right turns than left turns or high speed sweeping corners) the tweak gets off. Always get in the habit of checking your tweak before every run. It should become a pre-race routine. At important races, I will re-true the tires before every run and then check the tweak.

And after you've made sure that the tweak is set, check the steering end points. On the track, make right hand circles and then left hand circles at full steering lock. The circles must be the same size, right to left, or the car will have more steering in one direction than the other.

Crashby 06-19-2005 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by yellow15
i've got my L4 for a few weeks now and still learning how to drive it. I've raced it both indoor and outdoor once so far and really loving it. Unfortunately i still have handling issues that i don't know how to fix.

Anyway, yesterday i raced at our local outdoor track. I used a brand new set of Jaco tyres. (purple front and pink rear), the first race the handling was okie and i had a few crashes but still managed to came 2nd. I swapped the rear left/right tyre before the next race.. but then from 2nd race, my car doesn't really like to do left turns. everytime i turn left, i have to really slow down my car or it'll just understeer a lot. It turns right with no problem at all and is very sensitive. so i wonder why is it and how to fix it? the tweak screws are adjusted properly. All the wheels spin freely and i don't see anythign wrong/broken.

Motor is a 8 turn double (getting a V2 9x2), steering exp is -45% and steering throw is symetrical. Toe-in is about 1-2 degree each side. Camber is about -1 degree on both side. I'm using the thicker T-bar at the moment with 0.22 springs.

I've got similar problem at my first indoor race so i really want to find out what is going wrong with my car..

my 2nd question, since i've decided to race both on carpet and outdoor.. i wonder if there is a setting that is OKIE for both? I don't mind changing the front springs everytime as it's only a 5-10 mins job but changing the T-Bar seems to be too trouble and i have to take half the car apart... so what would you guys suggest me to do?

Thanks a lot.

And to answer your second question about setups between carpet and asphalt, the setup you have posted here would be a carpet setup which would also work on an extremely high bite asphalt track as well. Generally, the higher the bite, the stiffer you want to set the car up.

Hey, OD! How’s that barbequed Turkey taste?

Crashby 06-19-2005 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by yellow15
i've got my L4 for a few weeks now and still learning how to drive it. I've raced it both indoor and outdoor once so far and really loving it. Unfortunately i still have handling issues that i don't know how to fix.

Anyway, yesterday i raced at our local outdoor track. I used a brand new set of Jaco tyres. (purple front and pink rear), the first race the handling was okie and i had a few crashes but still managed to came 2nd. I swapped the rear left/right tyre before the next race.. but then from 2nd race, my car doesn't really like to do left turns. everytime i turn left, i have to really slow down my car or it'll just understeer a lot. It turns right with no problem at all and is very sensitive. so i wonder why is it and how to fix it? the tweak screws are adjusted properly. All the wheels spin freely and i don't see anythign wrong/broken.

Motor is a 8 turn double (getting a V2 9x2), steering exp is -45% and steering throw is symetrical. Toe-in is about 1-2 degree each side. Camber is about -1 degree on both side. I'm using the thicker T-bar at the moment with 0.22 springs.

I've got similar problem at my first indoor race so i really want to find out what is going wrong with my car..

my 2nd question, since i've decided to race both on carpet and outdoor.. i wonder if there is a setting that is OKIE for both? I don't mind changing the front springs everytime as it's only a 5-10 mins job but changing the T-Bar seems to be too trouble and i have to take half the car apart... so what would you guys suggest me to do?

Thanks a lot.

And to answer your second question about setups between carpet and asphalt, the setup you have posted here would be a carpet setup which would also work on an extremely high bite asphalt track as well. Generally, the higher the bite, the stiffer you want to set the car up.

Hey, OD! How’s that barbequed Eagle taste?

odpurple 06-19-2005 08:10 PM

Race Results-Modesto 6/18
 
mmmm good!

Tastes like Eagle! :nod:

Crashby 06-19-2005 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by odpurple
mmmm good!

Tastes like Eagle! :nod:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still Bill 06-19-2005 08:35 PM

Was there an od win?

jrrc 06-19-2005 08:37 PM

I'm liking this bird diet every weekend. If we are eating all the eagles, what are the eagles eating? Maybe......crow.

odpurple 06-19-2005 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by JRX-S Bill
Was there an od win?

fat chance! It was a "team win" so to speak.

1 Jim Rose
2 Steve Ashby
3 O'D

Jim-yer so mean! :lol:

Still Bill 06-19-2005 08:41 PM

Kewl!

jrrc 06-19-2005 08:45 PM

The three wise men ran one-two-three
The crimson eagle was stuck in a tree

Still Bill 06-19-2005 09:20 PM

And a poet you will never be.

Quote the raven (or eagle)..."Eat Kraft Cheese" (Mad Magazine circa 1960s).

odpurple 06-19-2005 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by ongbenghui
Hi,

Any clue if kawada front end will fit RC12L3/L4 type of chassis ?

Yes, same bolt pattern


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