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RedBullFiXX 03-15-2012 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by oXYnary (Post 10474102)
And when you have the opposite? C'mon, you can't tell me with a straight face that having to readjust your corner entry and exit during the race does not combat with your concentration. Yes, setup counts. But as established. Fade happens. Period.

You don't want to rely on having something to help make the car feel more consistent past the fade. Thats your prerogative. But if your going to be a "purest" like that. Please take all drag brake out of your car, and go back to a non proportional throttle setup like original 1/12ths had to contend with.

Are we talking about blinky or mod ?
I never, ever run drag brake in blinky

The only fade is battery
.5s in the last minute compared to the fast lap

After a few laps, the car normally works the same for the rest of the race.

CypressMidWest 03-15-2012 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by oXYnary (Post 10474102)
And when you have the opposite? C'mon, you can't tell me with a straight face that having to readjust your corner entry and exit during the race does not combat with your concentration. Yes, setup counts. But as established. Fade happens. Period.

You don't want to rely on having something to help make the car feel more consistent past the fade. Thats your prerogative. But if your going to be a "purest" like that. Please take all drag brake out of your car, and go back to a non proportional throttle setup like original 1/12ths had to contend with.

I've raced on a track or two that might give up some rear grip in MOD, but in anything less than 13.5 BOOSTED, rear grip has NEVER been an issue for me.

And honestly, the only time it really affects my concentration is when the loss of grip (at either end) comes on suddenly. If it happens gradually, as the term fade suggests, it's pretty easy for me to deal with, but I have been racing 12th scale for 20+ years......

M7H 03-16-2012 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by Steve S (Post 10471615)
:weird: Call me crazy, but I use the end points to set the end points. ;)

:nod:

Put dual rate at max (150% on a M11X) then set EPA, and turn down dual rate to the setting that suits you, this way you can NEVER go beyond whats physical possible on your car, to avoid the steering servo to lock-up and eventually kill your bec of your ESC..... :sneaky:

turboken 03-16-2012 09:25 PM

hello i need some help is a crc gen xi any good

RedBullFiXX 03-16-2012 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by turboken (Post 10478042)
hello i need some help is a crc gen xi any good

It's a great car, there are no true duds in 12th scale racing

Check the 12th info link in my sig for tons of stuff 12th scale related.

Car Breaker 03-17-2012 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by turboken (Post 10478042)
hello i need some help is a crc gen xi any good

It is a great car, in fact no bad 1/12 pan car, what influences the choice of car is really the local popularity and parts availability.

wait a minute 03-19-2012 10:40 AM

crc 1/12 and 1/10 scale cars are great cars to have. you cant go wrong with them and parts are plentyful and easy to get.

YR4Dude 03-19-2012 12:46 PM

Had my front tires at 43mm. Then after having worn off about 1mm, took off all the shims under the front end and now I am not able to make 3.5mm in front end ride height. In fact its just under 3mm.

At this point how do I get more ride height?

There's still some rubber left in the tires are they done?

Do I need to consider a different front end that will allow me to run the tires all the way to the rim?

jdeadman 03-19-2012 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by YR4Dude (Post 10488185)
Had my front tires at 43mm. Then after having worn off about 1mm, took off all the shims under the front end and now I am not able to make 3.5mm in front end ride height. In fact its just under 3mm.

At this point how do I get more ride height?

There's still some rubber left in the tires are they done?

Do I need to consider a different front end that will allow me to run the tires all the way to the rim?

What ride height block are you running? I have run 41mm tires with 4mm clearance using the 3mm blocks (ish)

DesertRat 03-19-2012 01:01 PM

If it's that important to run them to the rim, try tires with larger rims, like CRC or Enneti. What kind of car is it anyway that can't run to the rim and make ride height?

wwddww34 03-19-2012 01:18 PM

Here are some pics of the 1/12 Scale 17.5 Spec Pan Car A-Main winners at the 2012 ROAR Carpet Nationals last weekend.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0842.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0841.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0835.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0840.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0838.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0837.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0836.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0834.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0833.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0832.jpg.

wwddww34 03-19-2012 01:19 PM

Here are pics of the 1/12 Scale Modified Pan Car A-Main winners at the 2012 ROAR Carpet Nationals last weekend.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0854.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0852.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0850.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0849.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0835.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0848.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0847.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0846.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0845.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0844.jpg.
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0843.jpg

DesertRat 03-19-2012 01:25 PM

:cry: I wanted to go, but I had other responsibilities that I couldn't get around...

Curse you, Day Job, if not for you I may have been a great toy car racer!!! :flaming::flaming::flaming:

YR4Dude 03-19-2012 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by DesertRat (Post 10488258)
If it's that important to run them to the rim, try tires with larger rims, like CRC or Enneti. What kind of car is it anyway that can't run to the rim and make ride height?

BMI DB12RR It has the old AE reactive caster front end from a 12L3/4. Should I switch it back to the IRS front end that was on it?

RedBullFiXX 03-19-2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by YR4Dude (Post 10488185)
Had my front tires at 43mm. Then after having worn off about 1mm, took off all the shims under the front end and now I am not able to make 3.5mm in front end ride height. In fact its just under 3mm.

At this point how do I get more ride height?

There's still some rubber left in the tires are they done?

Do I need to consider a different front end that will allow me to run the tires all the way to the rim?

That BMi you have, may have an old associated front end on it, that could be the problem.
They were made for smaller wheels back then.


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