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Old 01-21-2008, 06:07 AM
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You might want to post this on the SP 12x thread as well, in case someone there misses your question here.

Not really familiar with low traction asphalt on the 12x, but a couple things you didn't mention:
-softer front springs
-front camber adjustment to make sure you have full contact of front tire to surface...this may need to be adjusted if you change springs, T-bars, etc...anything that changes the roll of the front end may require a camber adjustment. We run 1 to 1 1/4 degrees of camber on carpet with the WC front end.
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:02 AM
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Another thing- when the rear pod droop was too much, the 12x would push mid-corner to exit on carpet. You might want to try this adjustment.
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Old 01-21-2008, 08:49 AM
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Understeer under power is often best cured by using a firmer center shock spring.
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Old 01-21-2008, 03:15 PM
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great, cheers for the responses

Larry Brown - I've used soft and hard front springs, didn't make a difference on this particular part of the track

I will post this in the 12x thread also thanks
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:03 PM
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I was just wondering why isnt the single dapher tube used? I understand that there might be some slight progressive inconcistancys but seems like a good idea.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:18 PM
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now that lipo is legal for 6 cell racing, is it legal for 1/12th 4 cell? i doubt that they did, but it would be interesting, what would it be, 1 cell?
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Originally Posted by Ferrarimk13 View Post
now that lipo is legal for 6 cell racing, is it legal for 1/12th 4 cell? i doubt that they did, but it would be interesting, what would it be, 1 cell?
legal only for 6 cell racing
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Originally Posted by Branden Moody View Post
I was just wondering why isnt the single dapher tube used? I understand that there might be some slight progressive inconcistancys but seems like a good idea.
That was done before on early cars like the Trinity Revolver, but as time went on people switched to dual dubes due to the (perceived) inconsistancy because there is a "pull" direction and a "push" direction depending on which way the car is turning. I've also heard some grumbling from the dampener puck crowd that dual tubes isn't the way to go because manufacturing tolerances from one tube to the next as well as the fill/bleeding method can cause one tube to feel stiffer than the other, thus inducing a tweek.
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Old 01-23-2008, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by timmay70 View Post
legal only for 6 cell racing
ah, that makes sense, i wouldnt like to see 1/12th go lipo for some reason, i think its a traditional class, and the way it is, is fine.
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Old 01-23-2008, 11:14 AM
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I wonder if I could get some chassis advice.

I've been out of 12th racing for well over a year now but kept my old Associated L4 "just in case". Now I can finally use it again I remember the chassis de-laminating at the front.

I am interested in getting a conversion kit and wondered what the options are like at the moment.

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Hey guys, my newly re-acquired Rev4 is all ready to go for this Sunday in race setup, but the track where it will be run used ROAR weights, which is 880g. The car in race trim scales out to 840g, which is imperial numbers is just under an ounce and a half (a whole lotta freakin lead chunks).

First, are the rest of you usually under weight? Second, where do you wind up adding weight without the ability to balance the car out? 40g is a LOT to stuff onto this chassis...

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Roar weight is 794grams.
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The 2008 ROAR rule book (p.50) has it at 880g.

WTH?
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Originally Posted by ApexSpeed View Post
The 2008 ROAR rule book (p.50) has it at 880g.

WTH?
wow, they just threw in all kinds of rule changes without saying anything....

Wasn't 880g the weight when 12th scale cars were 6 cells outdoors? With the new cells and brushless stuff getting down to 794g is pretty much impossible, but going up to 880 is way too much of a jump.
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Crap, they added 86g of weight to the 1/12th minimum for 2008! WTF?

That's 3 freakin' ounces!




Anyone else aware of this? Where's Dawn?
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