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Old 02-04-2010, 04:00 PM   #31
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Anyone remember the RC10DS?

This was basically the associated version of what you are talking about. It looks like a RC10 with shorter suspension arms, shorter shocks, and on road tires (It came with a Mercedes DTM body or a Camaro body).

But back to the point, yes it would be great if Traxxas brought out a 2wd on-road type car.
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HPI practically has this level of car with the sprint-2 chassis, they just need a race legal esc/motor combo to make it work. I know for RTR fast sells, but there is proof that $200 rtRACE sells also.
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Great more RTRs. Like slowly adding poison to your food.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:05 PM   #34
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The slash is well enough behaved to pull it off, perhaps some anti roll bars to tame the body roll a bit, but if you want some scale car behaviour, slash has it in buckets
The roll would need to be tamed a lot. Roll bars would help but it would still just be an off-road car being ran on-road and would turn many people off. Redesigning it with a lowered chassis and suspension mounts would widen it's appeal to many more people. It may have scale behavior off-road but it is far from it on-road.
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The roll would need to be tamed a lot. Roll bars would help but it would still just be an off-road car being ran on-road and would turn many people off. Redesigning it with a lowered chassis and suspension mounts would widen it's appeal to many more people. It may have scale behavior off-road but it is far from it on-road.
Might as well just buy a touring car then.....
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Rally car based perhaps? That way there is no expectation of a finally groomed racing surface. You could run on carpet, asphalt, or even a dusty parking lot. Perhaps even have enough play in the suspension that small jumps could be added. Jumps are a big draw to racers and the crowd. We use 4" jumps in our slash on-road class and it gives it further appeal even though that is hardly a jump.
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Working in a hobby shop for the last 5 years I know that there aren't any cars on the market that offer the kind of versatility, durability and ease of use that something like a Slash based on-road car could offer. Something like the HPI Sprint 2 springs to mind, but having sold a few of those I know they don't meet the requirements. Belt drive means that parking lot driving is very difficult and it's small size and super low clearance means that small rocks give it trouble.
Something more 1/8th scale would be really cool. Larger diameter tires and clearance in the range of 10mm with a completely sealed drive train would mean that any old newbie could take it out and bash with it. You could jump curbs with it and not worry about pebbles. The second very important factor would be to make sure the handling balance is very neutral right out of the box, just like the Slash is. Actually the best part about the Slash is that it's just really FUN to drive, and that's the most important thing.
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Old 02-04-2010, 04:13 PM   #38
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Great more RTRs. Like slowly adding poison to your food.
Yeah, like the poison that was the Slash that doubled entries at club races so tracks can stay open? Yeah. That poison.
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The Slash can hustle around an on-road course pretty well, if all you want it to do is not tip over and have tractable over-steer--obviously, a touring car it ain't. What makes Slash racing fun in the dirt also makes it fun on pavement: big trucks, lots of body roll so they look like they're really hauling, and crazy durability. The best part is, there are already scads of Slash guys out there you could tap. You don't have to wait on Traxxas to do anything--just start racing and see if it catches on!

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You will be hard pressed to get Traxxas to expand or update any of their onroad stuff (4-tec and Nitro 4-tec). Traxxas main concern is offroad and lately, being the leader at having affordable RTRs and first product of a class (Tmaxx, Revo, Slash, brushless system in RTRs, etc). Their bread and butter is and has been offroad and that will be the way it will probably be for a while longer.
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Might as well just buy a touring car then.....
Not really...what makes a Slash so popular? Is it the chassis design? No...it's the large scale and the scale realism. Both of which would be better served by a redesign if it were to be brought to on-road.
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Yeah, like the poison that was the Slash that doubled entries at club races so tracks can stay open? Yeah. That poison.
And further embed the notion of RC as mere "toys" and not a hobby.
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Working in a hobby shop for the last 5 years I know that there aren't any cars on the market that offer the kind of versatility, durability and ease of use that something like a Slash based on-road car could offer. Something like the HPI Sprint 2 springs to mind, but having sold a few of those I know they don't meet the requirements. Belt drive means that parking lot driving is very difficult and it's small size and super low clearance means that small rocks give it trouble.
Something more 1/8th scale would be really cool. Larger diameter tires and clearance in the range of 10mm with a completely sealed drive train would mean that any old newbie could take it out and bash with it. You could jump curbs with it and not worry about pebbles. The second very important factor would be to make sure the handling balance is very neutral right out of the box, just like the Slash is. Actually the best part about the Slash is that it's just really FUN to drive, and that's the most important thing.
Exactly...a Slash BASED car...not a direct car migration of a Slash with an on-road body slapped on it. Many parts would carry over but the chassis and some suspension components would need a redesign.
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The Slash can hustle around an on-road course pretty well, if all you want it to do is not tip over and have tractable over-steer--obviously, a touring car it ain't. What makes Slash racing fun in the dirt also makes it fun on pavement: big trucks, lots of body roll so they look like they're really hauling, and crazy durability. The best part is, there are already scads of Slash guys out there you could tap. You don't have to wait on Traxxas to do anything--just start racing and see if it catches on!

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Lots of body roll wouldn't make it fun if it were an on-road convert. Full sized on-road has some body roll but no where near as much as the Slash.

As for just start racing it...we did...it never caught on. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't other places.
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Anyone remember the RC10DS?

This was basically the associated version of what you are talking about. It looks like a RC10 with shorter suspension arms, shorter shocks, and on road tires (It came with a Mercedes DTM body or a Camaro body).

But back to the point, yes it would be great if Traxxas brought out a 2wd on-road type car.
Hellz yeah I remember the DS. That was the first on road car I ever saw. I ordered on car the next day as I remember. However, as cool as those were, they dont even scratch at the potential of the modern Traxxas stuff hence their demise.

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HPI practically has this level of car with the sprint-2 chassis, they just need a race legal esc/motor combo to make it work. I know for RTR fast sells, but there is proof that $200 rtRACE sells also.
What??? Not even close! No offense to HPI but, the pewy.

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The Slash can hustle around an on-road course pretty well, if all you want it to do is not tip over and have tractable over-steer--obviously, a touring car it ain't. What makes Slash racing fun in the dirt also makes it fun on pavement: big trucks, lots of body roll so they look like they're really hauling, and crazy durability. The best part is, there are already scads of Slash guys out there you could tap. You don't have to wait on Traxxas to do anything--just start racing and see if it catches on!

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