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Old 01-13-2012, 12:05 PM   #241
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Never used the solid diff with the stock axles. I had the IRS ones with the pin cushions and it never caused a problem. You may be using to much steering. The X has a lot of steering and a pretty fair amount of Ackerman. Also, are you using the stock front hinge pin block ?? If so, try using a rear block in the front. It will straighten the axle angle and may help.
I've been running this setup (Matt Francis Reedy Race 2004), with a couple of changes (low rear roll center, ride height for VTA tires):

http://www.rctech.net/forum/922179-post10967.html

Matt ran that same sort of setup just about everywhere he ran outdoor. My car gets better every time I run it and get it more dialed in.

I made myself a set of BK Bones and it really, really helped the diff. I showed it to a buddy of mine who asked "Did you rebuild the diff?" to which I responded "I cleaned it, but no." He was amazed. It's like having a brand new outdrive every run.

If you look at Cav's setup from the same race (when he won), he had a 2R in the front, the axles straightend out, a spool, and a lot softer springs (green and blue, I think). Other than the CVD bone issue, it narrows the track a lot. The Losi guys were running .255 hexes (stock TC3 size) in the front to get the track width back. And I'm already doing that to square the front with the +6 rear.

I'm not sure how I'd make it any wider...
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Old 01-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #242
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I've been running this setup (Matt Francis Reedy Race 2004), with a couple of changes (low rear roll center, ride height for VTA tires):

http://www.rctech.net/forum/922179-post10967.html

Matt ran that same sort of setup just about everywhere he ran outdoor. My car gets better every time I run it and get it more dialed in.

I made myself a set of BK Bones and it really, really helped the diff. I showed it to a buddy of mine who asked "Did you rebuild the diff?" to which I responded "I cleaned it, but no." He was amazed. It's like having a brand new outdrive every run.

If you look at Cav's setup from the same race (when he won), he had a 2R in the front, the axles straightend out, a spool, and a lot softer springs (green and blue, I think). Other than the CVD bone issue, it narrows the track a lot. The Losi guys were running .255 hexes (stock TC3 size) in the front to get the track width back. And I'm already doing that to square the front with the +6 rear.

I'm not sure how I'd make it any wider...
Thanks for the set up link. My car is pretty good right now but I'll give this a shot, with maybe your changes for VTA. Never run the class before so I'm sure it's a different feel.
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:23 PM   #243
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Ran the GT / silvercan class locally yesterday: 12-13 cars total for the day, qualified 1-2-1, putting me right up front in the main. Got hacked real bad in the beginning but still finished 2nd, only being beat out by a new-ish Xray. I had the fastest lap of the main, so the speed was there just had a rough bout with traffic (one problem with this class locally is it does draw out some "all throttle no control" types). I don't think anyone had a better car through the infield. Not bad for a car I paid $80 bux for a year ago .
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:52 AM   #244
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What 64 pitch spur and pinion have people been running
for 13.5, 17.5 and/or 21.5. (Assuming large flowing asphalt track)
I read the Novak web site recommendations and it seemed like to meet their gearing recommendations it required a very large pinion on the smallest available spur.
I wondered what real world experience people had.
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What 64 pitch spur and pinion have people been running
for 13.5, 17.5 and/or 21.5. (Assuming large flowing asphalt track)
I read the Novak web site recommendations and it seemed like to meet their gearing recommendations it required a very large pinion on the smallest available spur.
I wondered what real world experience people had.
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Just curious what gear ratio you're trying to get to ? I've been running anywhere from 90-98t depending on what ratio I want. For 25.5 or 21.5 I aim for around 4.0 to 4.2 fdr. On bigger tracks I've run as low as 3.7 or so. The X can handle pretty big pinions. I think I ran all the way up to a 51t with no problem.
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For me to nail the required ratio in the local GT based class on the dot, I had to find the spur gear adapter. But yeah, what exact ratio are you trying to achieve? Can take a look on gearchart and see what can be had with the available Losi spurs.
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Recommended for 13.5 4.5 - would require 108/44
Recommended for 17.5 3.5 - would require 90/47

Does this match your experience?
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:03 PM   #248
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Do you have the alloy spur gear adapter ?? Those ratios aren't bad but remember they are "suggested starting ratios" only.
And remember that there are only a couple of 64p Losi spurs available. Without the adapter you may have to settle for 48p. That makes things a bit more difficult.
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I run 108/54 with the Novak Ballistic set at 45 Deg. of timing. This is on a indoor carpet and the max straight is 70'. This is in VTA with the spec tires.
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Btw, just checking into the group!! I just picked up a mint G+ with a boat load of parts. Looks hardly used, probably in stock/expert stock.

I'll be running in intermediate stock (or try sportsman stock if i can keep up)

Plan B is to run in a VTA class at the same track.

I'll keep you guys posted!!

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Good going Soup ! And Good Luck racing your X. The old girl still has plenty to give when raced in the right classes. I still have a pile of parts and i just might have to put another car together.
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