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Old 02-11-2010, 11:40 AM   #451
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nahh...why? another will just spring up, haha.

You're right, Hebiki...it's all about agendas. I have a GTB, therefore we should have a spec class with only GTBs allowed. Or if you have an SPX, maybe we should limit it there.

In reality, I have two Tekins....no ban the technology!

let's go in circles some mo'

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Old 02-11-2010, 11:42 AM   #452
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not yet chris, first...


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Simple solution, two TC classes, Novice, (beginner) and mod. Classes should be based on experience/skill level not motors. The qualifiers, already sort and put similar drivers together in their own heats based on their skill level. As your skill level improves you can add more motor to compete with the next higher skill group, if that is your motivation, with your ultimate goal being to compete with the top racers in the A main. If your comfort zone is to stay in the C or B main, then so be it. Nitro has got it right, the class is based on skill level.
Makes no sense to have a zillion TC classes, makes winning one of them pretty meaningless. Winning a full lower main has more meaning based on one's skill level, then winning a skimpy B or A main.
hi john, in theory this sounds good, but if FW went just novice and mod electric you know it wouldn't good over very well. fact of the matter, all those complaining that we need to let the newbie win stock so he doesn't quit... whats going to make him stick around when he gets beat even worse in mod. its going to be a even longer learning curve. most nitro guys just have a different attitude, thier willing to put in thier time to learn, electric guys want it handed to them. see you at the track
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:47 AM   #453
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hi john, in theory this sounds good, but if FW went just novice and mod electric you know it wouldn't good over very well. fact of the matter, all those complaining that we need to let the newbie win stock so he doesn't quit... whats going to make him stick around when he gets beat even worse in mod. its going to be a even longer learning curve. most nitro guys just have a different attitude, thier willing to put in thier time to learn, electric guys want it handed to them. see you at the track
Were going to impliment an extra step along the steep learning curve between novice and mod at FWR this comming season, and its going to be skill based... and will be an activly managed class. I think it will be a huge success.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:15 PM   #454
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Your "cheater speed controls" of today can be compared to those of us that had the resources to buy all the gadgets to make fixed endbells go faster. Magnet Zappers, 4 different brush cutters, 6 different types of springs, and 4 different compounds of brushes. Not to mention a laptop and Fantom dyno as well. Were we cheating back then? No, nothing we did was against the rules, you just had to have more money to go fast in stock. Ask the battery guys and the 1200 SCR matching. Yes, we were faster than those that didn't have this technology.
And if I could just add: all the hours spent finding that last bit of performance with the above mentioned items.

I'd like to also add that I like the idea of getting away from the "name" of the class and go by motor number.
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Simple solution, two TC classes, Novice, (beginner) and mod. Classes should be based on experience/skill level not motors. The qualifiers, already sort and put similar drivers together in their own heats based on their skill level. As your skill level improves you can add more motor to compete with the next higher skill group, if that is your motivation, with your ultimate goal being to compete with the top racers in the A main. If your comfort zone is to stay in the C or B main, then so be it. Nitro has got it right, the class is based on skill level.
Makes no sense to have a zillion TC classes, makes winning one of them pretty meaningless. Winning a full lower main has more meaning based on one's skill level, then winning a skimpy B or A main.


Would make racing a Sedan interesting again .....
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:11 PM   #456
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hi john, in theory this sounds good, but if FW went just novice and mod electric you know it wouldn't good over very well. fact of the matter, all those complaining that we need to let the newbie win stock so he doesn't quit... whats going to make him stick around when he gets beat even worse in mod. its going to be a even longer learning curve. most nitro guys just have a different attitude, thier willing to put in thier time to learn, electric guys want it handed to them. see you at the track
Novice, Sportsman mod, Pro Mod.

Maybe.....
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:26 PM   #457
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super stock is a dumb class, lets face it anyone who can drive a super stock car today can drive a mod car. ditch that class and move on.
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I'm all for the "scrap the motor type classes". Best idea yet.
Mod = Run whatever you can hold onto. Silver cans for novice. You can still tweak a silver can if you want to cheat, but not to the extent of difference you can get with brushless.
Also, make the silver cans hand-out by the club, and return at the end of each meet. Got a slow motor? Bugger, better luck next time!
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super stock is a dumb class, lets face it anyone who can drive a super stock car today can drive a mod car. ditch that class and move on.
It's way harder to run a true mod car then it is a 13.5/ super stock car.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:22 PM   #460
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It's way harder to run a true mod car then it is a 13.5/ super stock car.

No such thing as a true mod car. they leave the decision upto the racer on what they can handle?
Maybe we can just call MOD..... Sedan Spec 540 brushless.... Open ESC and Open motor wind as long as the motor is standard size...People will jump on that idea?
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Old 02-23-2010, 07:58 PM   #461
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Here is a idea to the number of classes...

Have the Manufactures purchase the class, so if it is the Tekin RS, that is the Speedo you can run for that class. If Xray has a class, then that is only Xray can run. Let's get this so diluted so that we have one entry per class, so everyone wins... Isn't that we are really talking about, changing to benefit that person for that class?
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You could always run in the Bobby Awesome class.

All you have to do is change your name to Bob. And, of course, be awesome.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:42 PM   #463
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DIE THREAD

DIE!

Please moderators, delete this.
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Yes, who really cares anyway, stock is such a sissy class!!!
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Here is a idea to the number of classes...

Have the Manufactures purchase the class, so if it is the Tekin RS, that is the Speedo you can run for that class. If Xray has a class, then that is only Xray can run. Let's get this so diluted so that we have one entry per class, so everyone wins... Isn't that we are really talking about, changing to benefit that person for that class?
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