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Old 04-22-2004, 07:29 AM   #166
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If you compare the specs to the 16x9 - it is basically the same charger.... I could not determine the difference between them... Out side of the 16x9 has a power supply option?? I was gonna buy that one but decided to get a high end power supply and have it seperate just in case the charger happens to break or something I still have a power supply... You have to be prepared for the worst.. You just never know when something will fail.
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Old 04-22-2004, 01:35 PM   #167
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The Eagle and the Integy IS the same charger.
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BUT the 16x9 has a built in power supply - although I also like to keep these thing seperate (just like my hi-fi...)
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Hi I have a problem with my CDC ver 6, I setup the charger like before, but when I push Start it says that th'ere's no cell connected. What can go wrong??
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I posted a question about high ir numbers on the fukuyamaie:starting off at 50+ but by 5 mins into the charge they were down to 35. Not sure what question to ask now so i am going to leave it because they went good enough on the track on wendsday night, so i am still happy chappie,
by the way eagle v6 good charger much nicer then quaser(pooh)
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IF there is a problem with the integy charger... best to post it on their forums... they can help you better then most...

I have no idea what the CDR V6 is by the way...
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Hi I have a problem with my CDC ver 6, I setup the charger like before, but when I push Start it says that th'ere's no cell connected. What can go wrong??
martinm: check the wire especially the small one, it may be cut or detached fron the aligator clips. check also the battery bars!

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I've been wondering about those small wires. They're sensors right?

Why do you need to use separate wires if you're going to attach them to the same clips anyway. Why not just do the sensing using the big wires? just wondering, mine is still warranty-sealed so I can't open the case to take a look.



Hey Babytoy, my Victor can do two things the CDC can't. With the Victor you can alter the charging current up and down during charging; and you can do motor tests too. I haven't tested the motor thing yet. I'll bring it on sunday. The new CDC stays at home.
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I posted a question about high ir numbers on the fukuyamaie:starting off at 50+ but by 5 mins into the charge they were down to 35. Not sure what question to ask now so i am going to leave it because they went good enough on the track on wendsday night, so i am still happy chappie,
by the way eagle v6 good charger much nicer then quaser(pooh)
Yep, I noticed your question on the Fuku thread, but now it seems like I didnt understood it right.

Batteries IR changes during the charge. It's normal to have a higher initial IR, then lower in the middle part and when the pack begins to peak, the IR will raise again. Thats absolutely normal.

The IR will also change during discharge, but not as much. Often there will be a lower IR during discharge.

So what to do?

As you already noticed, it's track performance that matters.

What I do, is to do one cycle and write the numbers down. Then I can do the same, lets say 3 months later. Now I can compare numbers, to ensure my battery maintenance is proper. I also have clear prove of when the pack wear out.

Hope this helps.
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I've been wondering about those small wires. They're sensors right?
Thing is, that due to the high current, there will be a voltage drop over the thick wires. By using the additional thin wires (which dont carry high current), you get a much more precise voltage sensing.
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martinm: check the wire especially the small one, it may be cut or detached fron the aligator clips. check also the battery bars!

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That's what I would do
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BUT the 16x9 has a built in power supply - although I also like to keep these thing seperate (just like my hi-fi...)
My bad, I was thinking of the Integy 16x5v6, which is the same as the Eagle CDC v6.
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Hi all.

I have a CDC 16x5 v6 charger.

I have SMC GP3300. 1.174v at 30a Dis.

What amp charge at what mv should I charge at to get the best punch for stock motors.

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I think you'll get plenty of performance at 6A charge and 5mV per cell cutoff.

Others may suggest you push the cells harder.
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Hi all.

I have a CDC 16x5 v6 charger.

I have SMC GP3300. 1.174v at 30a Dis.

What amp charge at what mv should I charge at to get the best punch for stock motors.

Thanks Ybakoff
I would simply follow the SMC recommendations , then measure the pack temperature at the point where the charger cut off. The cut-off voltage is a little lower then what Fukuyama recommend resulting in a lower temperature. They need to be at 50-55 degrees celsius to perform good. Maybe a little higher, thats' what Fukuyama recommend, even though I personally havent found any big difference performance wise, between 50 and 60 degrees celsius.

The higher the cut-off voltage, the higher the temperature. So be carefull and monitor the temperature during the first charges.
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