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Old 01-24-2005, 11:56 AM   #8776
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............and it broke my pc cause I double posted. lol
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Old 01-24-2005, 01:13 PM   #8777
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That was indeed painful to watch and I think I felt the impact on the driver's stand. Troy was going 150mph when he hit me while I was on my lid! My antenna ripped clear off and that was it for the both of us. It's too bad because my car felt really good on the first lap.

Got to congratulate Art Jensen on his first big win! He kept it together and brought home the checkered for Schumacher.
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Old 01-24-2005, 05:01 PM   #8778
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I have to quiet practicing at home if im ever going to get to race my mi2 the street has a dranage grate that took a hub off my car the first time I tryed it!
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Old 01-24-2005, 05:04 PM   #8779
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I thank the wall wins more then then we do? what do you thank?

Hello wall!!!!!
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Old 01-24-2005, 05:13 PM   #8780
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steve- nice run in 19 on sunday.
Too bad PW got screwed in the mod main.
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Old 01-24-2005, 06:48 PM   #8781
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I'm using another members set up (king G) for my local track (Boronia) Tight ashphalt and running in 540 pro (silver can motor) for my MI2 and have a few questions (I have pmed the member but may get a quicker reply here

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This is his set up, posted a while ago

#Note: Alloy hinge pin mounts used front and rear.
Transmission bulkheads raised 2mm (using alloy shims inderneath gearboxes, also 2mm shims sandwiched between layshaft mounts/motor mount and topdeck).
(am looking to make some 2mm Carbon plates)..

Raising transmission provides more efficiency through leveling cvd shafts at ride height..also alters roll centres by raising towers / R.C locations.


Front:
Shocks: tried TRF shocks for added bump / stroke ratio, used schumacher lower ballcups.
3 hole piston, 40 weight schumacher oil, 1 black oring spacer under piston
17 lbs spring (ae blue)
Mounting position: middle hole on Tower, outer hole on arm
5mm ride height
2.5mm droop

Castor 4 degree's
Camber 1.5 degree
Camberlink position: Upper Inner hole (remember gearboxes raised 2mm above standard, altering height of link)
1.5mm swaybar (BRP)
arm position 1 thin kwik clip infront of arm.
Alloy arm mounts, mounted directly to 2mm spacer plate..(no raiser shims)
Oneway diff used.

Rear:
Shocks: 3 hole piston, 40 weight schumacher oil, 1 black oring spacer under piston
14.5 lbs spring (ae silver)
Mounting Position: 2nd outermost on tower, 2nd outermost on arm
5.5mm ride height
4mm droop

Camber 1 degree
Camberlink position: Upper middle hole (remember gearboxes raised 2mm above standard)
standard kit setting on hub (middle)
Kit swaybar 1.7mm
arm position 1 thin kwik clip infront of arm.
Alloy arm mounts, raised 2mm above spacer plate..(2mm alloy shims, to raise rear roll centre)
2 degree rear toe (provided with alloy mounts)
Rear Diff, Medium tightness, free action without slip.

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I do not have the alloy hinge pin mounts, but I have put the alloy rear hub carriers on it as well.


I'm using the lower shock towers and have set my TRF shocks to 64 mm which gives me enough travel for up to 6 mm of droop (if I ever needed that much) and still puts the shock approx in the middle of it's operating range.

Does that sound correct ?

I have raised the front diff mounts like he said, but left the lower arms on their original mounts, so I have changed the Roll centre of the front



The rear diff mount has been raised also but so have the lower arm mounts, so the roll centre should be same as original, I have now used the aluminium rear hub carriers and are using the inner hole, so should I also raise the ball stud 2mm to keep the original roll centre?

Do I need to change the rear roll centre and if so up or down?

As I don't have the alloy hinge pins (no stock at local supplier) I have left the plastic ones in place but have set it to 1.5 degrees toe - in to get it close to his 2 degrees. The alloy rear hubs give me the option to change the toe-in, does that alter what the inboard toe-in should be?

I also have to use the kit sway bars as that is all I have at present.


Any help appreciated

Thanks Mick
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Old 01-24-2005, 08:07 PM   #8782
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steve- nice run in 19 on sunday.
Too bad PW got screwed in the mod main.
Thanks TJ! I wish I had the same luck in modified...I was out on lap 1. PW was gone and it was too bad he got caught up in traffic. Later
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Old 01-24-2005, 08:56 PM   #8783
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Ratter, please check PM...

you need to raise both ends transmission housings for the topdeck to remain aligned...best to use some carbon cut to shape...(schumacher may be releasing these plates)..

The plates I received also raise the layshaft mounts, but i prefer to leave the layshaft mount low, and place the spacer ontop (sandwiched between layshaft mount and topdeck)...

this mod gives negligible improvement, lowers to cars roll centre sligtly, and gives less camber gain through more parallel links...

try both and see which you prefer...

generally the upper middle position (roll centre / camber link) is used both front and rear...seems to be ideal in most conditions.

leave the front hingepin mounts at the standard height for now...and play with raising the rear arm mounts in .5mm increments. (I have settled for 1.5mm raised rear mounts) seems to give the best balance at my track using T.O 27.
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Old 01-25-2005, 04:54 AM   #8784
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King-G is that 1.5 mm on top of the roll center plate? So its a total of 3.5 from the chassis base? Thanks
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okay the diff housings are raised with a plate that is supplied in the kit are you rising it again or am I just thrown for a loop?

and if so, and im using a riser plate in front and wear do I need to raise the top plate on the motor mount?


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Old 01-25-2005, 07:02 PM   #8787
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Shark - Don't worry about it. It dosen't work for US tracks. We tested the parts and do not import them due to no performance gain. I don't think Teemu runs them anymore either.

TTT means To The Top. Its a way to bump a thread to the top of the forum.
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So who all is going to the birds? Be cool to meet everybody.
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Old 01-25-2005, 07:35 PM   #8789
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Im in the process of picking up a MI2. Is there any option parts or hop ups that I need? I run rubber tires on a outdoor asphalt track.

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