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06-03-2002, 04:52 PM
#2206
Paul's setup is on here a few pages back I used over the weekend and I had alot of luck with it.
06-03-2002, 04:59 PM
#2207
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Raptor....thats Paul's asphalt setup we are taling about a Foam tire carpet setup the setup.....but yes that set up that he has posted a few pages back does work well outside.
06-03-2002, 05:04 PM
#2208
Sorry about that we dont get to use foam
06-03-2002, 05:16 PM
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No need to be sorry cant fault ya for offering help
I just wanted Ottoman to realize that setup was for asphalt outdoors rubber tires was all.
I just wanted Ottoman to realize that setup was for asphalt outdoors rubber tires was all.
06-03-2002, 07:05 PM
#2210
Kevin K, I have tried the outter hole on the arm and the middle on the tower with Losi purple's. Car felt good, but did not carry the speed. Did you still lay them down, but used the outter hole? I have not tried that yet. My car feels "GREAT" right now. Here it is:
FRONT:
#2 Associated w/ 80 weight oil
TC3 white spring
inside hole on arm and inside hole on tower (laying down)
2 degree inboard toe out
8.5 castor
outside hole on hubs
thick sway bar
3mm droop (3 on Losi gauge)
0 toe out at wheel
REAR:
#2 Associated w/ 80 weight oil
TC3 white spring
inside hole on arm and inside hole on tower (laying down)
0 degree inboard toe
2 degrees of toe in at wheel
outter hole on hubs
stock upper mounts
middle wheel base
plaids/purples
Nothing done to roll center or kick up (STOCK)
Car still needs to be a little stiffer. Going to go to #3 pistons for this weekend. I kind of think the car carries more corner speed using the inside hole on the hubs. Going to experiment more with that as well. Overall this is an easy to drive set up for stock or mod (ESPECIALLY STOCK). Still working on getting 100% in mod. It's close.....
Rob Love
FRONT:
#2 Associated w/ 80 weight oil
TC3 white spring
inside hole on arm and inside hole on tower (laying down)
2 degree inboard toe out
8.5 castor
outside hole on hubs
thick sway bar
3mm droop (3 on Losi gauge)
0 toe out at wheel
REAR:
#2 Associated w/ 80 weight oil
TC3 white spring
inside hole on arm and inside hole on tower (laying down)
0 degree inboard toe
2 degrees of toe in at wheel
outter hole on hubs
stock upper mounts
middle wheel base
plaids/purples
Nothing done to roll center or kick up (STOCK)
Car still needs to be a little stiffer. Going to go to #3 pistons for this weekend. I kind of think the car carries more corner speed using the inside hole on the hubs. Going to experiment more with that as well. Overall this is an easy to drive set up for stock or mod (ESPECIALLY STOCK). Still working on getting 100% in mod. It's close.....
Rob Love
06-03-2002, 07:22 PM
#2211
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The World Famous SoCal Raceway now has Missions and all the spare parts in stock. Sponsored drivers Don Vinkemulder and Jay Williams have been racing and winning there some time. Their great attitudes, helpfulness to racers did a lot to make this happen. Thanks guys!
06-03-2002, 07:36 PM
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Rob.....the last couple of qualifiers at Clevland I ran the shocks laid down and on the outside hole on the arm. Thats when it felt the best to me. I also ran white TC3 springs there so it might be something to try. Let me know how it all plays out.
06-03-2002, 10:43 PM
#2215
changing the diffs
Hey guys, a little off topic but is there any fast way to take out the diffs in the car? I rebuilt my rear diff and it took so long it's not even funny...seems like you have to take the whole damn rear-end of the car apart!!!! Any help is appreciated...
06-03-2002, 11:02 PM
#2216
the front diff is very quick, as the topdeck doesnt need to be removed, just the 2 end screws..
the rear diff however requires teh removal of the topdeck, then grab some pliers and pop the ball cups for one side shock, and both of the camberlink ballcups. I then undo the four screws which fix the rear bulkhead in place from the underside of the chassis, and flip the whole assembly to the side.
doesnt take more than a couple of minutes once youve done it a couple of times.
the rear diff however requires teh removal of the topdeck, then grab some pliers and pop the ball cups for one side shock, and both of the camberlink ballcups. I then undo the four screws which fix the rear bulkhead in place from the underside of the chassis, and flip the whole assembly to the side.
doesnt take more than a couple of minutes once youve done it a couple of times.
06-04-2002, 05:48 AM
#2217
Adrian M, Have not tried the raised front, but will be doing that this weekend. I want to try kick up and the roll center mod. I'll let you know.
Kevin K, I am going to give it a shot.
Rob Love
Kevin K, I am going to give it a shot.
Rob Love
06-04-2002, 10:16 AM
#2218
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Adrian - I have tried the raised front with foams and it seemed fine, but it is fairly low grip carpet where i race. I spoke to Chris A about it after they came back from the LRP race. Aparantly it wasn't as good there as the grip came up. I know that is on rubbers but it is very high grip.
Rob - I know someone who has tried kick-up. He says it gives more steering overall. I haven't tried it myself. I don't think it would have such an effect on our car as it would with others that use the standard "C" type caster block.
Rob - I know someone who has tried kick-up. He says it gives more steering overall. I haven't tried it myself. I don't think it would have such an effect on our car as it would with others that use the standard "C" type caster block.
06-04-2002, 01:11 PM
#2219
MattW, Thanks for the info. Only thing I run is carpet with foams. I'll post some info on Sunday and let everyone know what I find........
The key thus far has been to go with the 0 in-board toe. The car is still super planted with only 2 degrees at the wheel and 0 at the arm, but it allows for faster transistioning.... Just remember things I post are for carpet with foams where there is "SERIOUS" traction....
Rob Love
The key thus far has been to go with the 0 in-board toe. The car is still super planted with only 2 degrees at the wheel and 0 at the arm, but it allows for faster transistioning.... Just remember things I post are for carpet with foams where there is "SERIOUS" traction....
Rob Love
06-04-2002, 02:32 PM
#2220
RBLove: I'm currently running the raised front with 1 additional mm of kick (I've also run 2mms). The car seems to have more steering overall, especially middle out. Most likely this is due to the active caster it puts into the car. Give it a try and let me know what you think. I'd appreciate the input...