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Old 05-26-2007, 01:08 PM   #19531
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What kind of lap times did you turn tonight at Frederick?
I was hitting 12.6's and 12.7's

I only have 4 packs through the car, so I know I can get down to 11.8 - 11.9 with alittle time and tuning. The car has so many adjustmets to play with I has going to goto Jackson next Saturday, but I'm thinking fredrick..........
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:03 PM   #19532
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Just sayin.. slop isn't always a bad thing. I havent had a single ball cup pop off yet with the stock stuff.
"slop isn't always a bad thing".....this I know. People complain about the slop in Tamiya parts all the time, but it certainly hasn't stopped those cars from doing extremely well in the hands of team drivers and club racers alike. The slop certainly didn't hurt me for the past couple years with my Tamiya. But one area that was more precise was the steering.

I just find it odd that Schumacher was so concerned about precision, that they intentionally include tight fitting parts, but at the same time "slop isn't always a bad thing" for the ball cups.

It also seems kinda odd that people dump $80-$100+ on high end, precisely centering digital servo, only to not worry about play in the steering. And the only time I've ever had, or even seen people have an issue with ball cups popping off is in off-road. Even in nitro I rarely have a ball cup pop off.

In any case, I'll give it a try with the RPM cups, and if for some reason I need more slop, I can always go back to the Schumacher cups.
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:17 PM   #19533
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Totally agree with this one. Especially in the steering. Something i was told by a 12th scale guy that knows what he's about. I've given up telling people this over the years., as very few people will believe you!!
People don't believe it because most of the companies themselves continually harp on and on about precision. Shim this...shim that...measure this...measure that.... .1mm this .05mm that...."our parts have a more precise fit"...."or car is a 'luxury' TC"...magazines even give scores for fit and finish, thus implying that its very important....on and on and on...

So when people see this stuff non-stop, its kinda hard to convince them that seeing their wheels wobble with slop, or seeing their camber links shift side to side while their trying to set camber, or having their steering shift while the servo isn't moving, is alright.

Like I said, I know from experience with my last car that a little slop wont hurt. So its never really been that big a deal to me. But I've also always been told that if you can get rid of slop, that you should.

So now, reading about how important it is to have the Mi3 arms and other parts precise, but the steerings not that big a deal, I'm left wondering, is slop a good or bad thing? Is it fine in some areas (steering) and not in others (suspension arms)?
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Old 05-26-2007, 03:25 PM   #19534
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If anyone wants an additional option, go with the Lunsford stuff. I use them on just about ride and they're a sweet fit. Pop on tight like the Schuie units but half the slop
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:04 PM   #19535
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3 dogbones in 20 minutes

ok first time ever using a spool D/R was at 86 the first 2 times I barely hit the flapper and the cvd pins were toast the third I didn't hit anything and it still snap

Please is this just me or anybody else having this problem
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:23 PM   #19536
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3 dogbones in 20 minutes

ok first time ever using a spool D/R was at 86 the first 2 times I barely hit the flapper and the cvd pins were toast the third I didn't hit anything and it still snap

Please is this just me or anybody else having this problem
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:32 PM   #19537
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3 dogbones in 20 minutes

ok first time ever using a spool D/R was at 86 the first 2 times I barely hit the flapper and the cvd pins were toast the third I didn't hit anything and it still snap

Please is this just me or anybody else having this problem
We are all running a 1.5mm plastic washer glued to the steering yoke to limit the steering. Then adjust your end points so you dont bind the servo.
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:40 PM   #19538
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We are all running a 1.5mm plastic washer glued to the steering yoke to limit the steering. Then adjust your end points so you dont bind the servo.
No let me re-check the manual
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Old 05-26-2007, 04:52 PM   #19539
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We are all running a 1.5mm plastic washer glued to the steering yoke to limit the steering. Then adjust your end points so you dont bind the servo.
anybody have a pic??
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Actually, the manual calls for a 2mm spacer to be glued to the yoke. There are even 2 of them included with the kit. They are black plastic pieces. I'll throw up a pic if no one else does.
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Can someone post a picture of the bottom view of Mi3?

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Old 05-26-2007, 05:08 PM   #19542
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No let me re-check the manual
some one missed a page j/k
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anybody have a pic??
Here you go. This is the 2mm shim the manual calls for.
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where the hell was that in manual????
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where the hell was that in manual????
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