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Old 02-04-2007, 10:46 AM
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Fred keep that EC. Makes a killer spare car.
Don't worry I am. I have two of them!
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:23 PM
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Old 02-04-2007, 02:48 PM
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Yes you can run the diffs with one up and one down. I run my rear diff with the riser plate and the front diff without.
What's the effect of running one diff up, one down?
And is the effect very obvious when running or is it subtle

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What's the effect of running one diff up, one down?
And is the effect very obvious when running or is it subtle

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Running the diff in the lower postion will give the car more traction on that end of the car. I can tell a difference but I will say for whatever reason it was more noticeable on my old JRXS I use to have before running for Schumacher.

GIve it a try because I think if you are a decent driver and can some consistant laps then you will see a differance. I think it is a nice adjustment that don't make a huge change and throw the car all out of whack.
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Hiya

can you tell me what the difference is in leaning the shocks up or down, on both the front and back ?

thanks
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Originally Posted by MoonTrap
Hiya

can you tell me what the difference is in leaning the shocks up or down, on both the front and back ?

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More you lay the shocks in the the lazier the car will feel on the track and with that it makes it a little easier to drive. STanding the shocks up will make the car a little more aggressive. Its the same for the front and rear.

In the rear laying the shocks in will get the car to rotate a little more in the corners. In the front it makes the car steering slower when in like a chicane.

Standing them up does the opposite. Best thing to do is make a run with your normal setup and then just pick the front or rear of the car and lay them in/out. Run the car again. See what it did for you. Now I right stuff down in my notes because I normally forget everything. Getting old.
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Originally Posted by MoonTrap
Hiya

can you tell me what the difference is in leaning the shocks up or down, on both the front and back ?

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I believe in theory you get more grip with the shocks leaning in but it can slow down the reactions of the car.
They say that the faster the track i.e. more sweepers etc you want the shocks to lean in more. For tighter tracks, especially if they have any chicanes etc. put the shocks more upright for better reactions with quick direction changes.
Someone described leaning the shocks more as making the car feel a bit 'lazy' while the vertical shocks are more responsive.

From halfway though the Hudy book has a load of theory bits explaing what changes can achieve;
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Shock angles can be tricky. Moving the top location is a much more fine tuning type change. Moving them from the bottom is usually a very big change and honestly rarely done. What everyone has said about the car being more aggressive and responsive when stood up is true. They're more linear when stood up, i.e. they have close to the same feel from the start of the stroke to the end and it's a little more stiff at the start of the stroke because the wheel has less leverage on the shock. Laid down, the wheel will have more leverage on the shock so it'll feel softer at the start of the stroke. But it becomes more progressive the deeper into the stroke you go. Sometimes if I feel I need a softer spring, I'll first try laying the shocks down before putting that softer spring on.
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Mini Dub,

Can't believe that you could have that many radio hits and not crash! That thing was apparently in control for about 10-15 seconds of the flight (and even then, it was upside down). Maybe some new crystals?

J/K Awsome flying, even the camera man couldn't keep up. Thanks for sharing...see you in May.
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Winning with Schumacher, So easy a Caveman could do it!

Alex Lopez Wins Florida State Series race #1 in Mod Sedan.

This race was the first ever using the Heads up Reedy Points format. There are 3 Mod heats per day for 2 days with 2 throw outs. Alex won 3 races and finished 2nd once in his best 4 heats to earn the most points. Great Job A-Lo!
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Keep an eye out for PW's new paint job at the Snowbirds.
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Nice job Adrian....If only you drove like you paint.......
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Keep an eye out for PW's new paint job at the Snowbirds.
NIce.
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I like the colors on the new paint scheme Alex.

Adrian, PW's new scheme is looking good too. Is that just for the birds or is that going to be the normal scheme now?
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Butter - Its sad but you are right

Jon - That will be his new scheme for the Schumacher Mi3 and BMI DB-12R
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