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Old 01-26-2007, 07:45 AM   #17221
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In regards to the Mi2EC.
You get the normal MI2EC, and the Foam Spec.
Which is better to us in the below classes. I race on Asphalt with Foam Tires.

540 - Which chassis, Foam or normal ?
stock 27t - which chassis, foam or normal ?
mod - which chassis, foam or normal ?

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I don't race asphalt, but I heard that stiff is not the way to go like racing rubber tires on carpet. The foam spec is going to have a stiffer top deck and bottom deck if I'm not mistaken. I would run the normal ec becuase I think it was developed on asphalt.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:00 AM   #17222
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Foams on asphalt is a whole different ball game though. I know there's a few guys from Australia on here who race that class. They should be able to help you out. I'd actually guess the Foam spec car would be god but your suspension setup would probably need to be a little softer than a carpet setup. But then again, having never done it, I really don't know for sure.
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Hello,

In regards to the Mi2EC.
You get the normal MI2EC, and the Foam Spec.
Which is better to us in the below classes. I race on Asphalt with Foam Tires.

540 - Which chassis, Foam or normal ?
stock 27t - which chassis, foam or normal ?
mod - which chassis, foam or normal ?

Thanks
When we raced Foams on asphalt we would run almost the same setups that we did with rubber tires. If you race on a track with a ton of Nitro cars then you might need to go just a little bit stiffer. But I would start with a normal rubber tire setup.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:13 PM   #17224
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I stand corrected. I would have thought you'd get a lot more grip with foams. I guess I'm just thinking about SoCal. That track's got as much grip as some carpet tracks so you'd need to go with a stiffer car and carpet type setup there.
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Hi Guys, need some help.
I race indoors on carpet on a tight small track using rubber tyres and 27t stock motors only. The track I guess is about 30 m by 20 m, and I can't seem to get a stable one way setup so have been using a diff but it is clear that a one way is quicker when i can hold it together.
Can someone post a setup that might work or moint me in the right direction of where i'm going wrong. Been trying the Chris Ashton carpet setup from the manual but even with the roll bar added and the rear shocks moved in further the car is still very loose off power and in high speed corners on power.
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Hi guys - need some help also.

Looking at puting down a permanent carpet track. Looking for a carpet that will give good traction with rubbers and foams and hopefully without traction compounds. Is Ozite the go for this or is there something better ? Also what is the wear rate like of Ozite carpet ?


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I stand corrected. I would have thought you'd get a lot more grip with foams. I guess I'm just thinking about SoCal. That track's got as much grip as some carpet tracks so you'd need to go with a stiffer car and carpet type setup there.
Jon....for me it didnt really depended on the track around here. We could take a car that was setup for rubber tires and throw foams on and go faster and the car would handle awesome. When we would start to tune the car like a foam car on carpet it would get ugly. I raced at 1 parking lot track and 1 full time track and the car worked the same at both. It took us a while to see that a carpet foam setup wouldnt work as well as a rubber set or a rubber setup with just a tick stiffer springs. This was just what I saw around here....maybe some of the guys from the east coast can chime in as they run a lot of foams on asphalt....as do the guys down under. The one cool thing about foams on asphalt is passing Nitro cars down the straight.
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After going through the manuel i cant see info on the pivot pin blocks.Although they are marked L and R it looks clear that the holes for the pins are not centered so can be placed either up or down, changing the angle of the pivot pin.

Do you run them the same all round or different from rear to front. Any help would be great.
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Run them the same all round, with the hole at the top of the block.
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After going through the manuel i cant see info on the pivot pin blocks.Although they are marked L and R it looks clear that the holes for the pins are not centered so can be placed either up or down, changing the angle of the pivot pin.

Do you run them the same all round or different from rear to front. Any help would be great.
You install them in the upward location. If you put them with the holes down the arms will bind. To adjust roll center add or subtract shims.
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Hey Steve all my stuff showed up today. THe one way outdrives and my packs. Damn I got lucky for this weekend. Now just have to see if I actually have a carpet rear tower (I think I only have a front carpet tower). Not a huge deal if I don't.

Thanks PW for getting out those outdrives.
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Thanks for clearing up my questions.
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Hi Guys, need some help.
I race indoors on carpet on a tight small track using rubber tyres and 27t stock motors only. The track I guess is about 30 m by 20 m, and I can't seem to get a stable one way setup so have been using a diff but it is clear that a one way is quicker when i can hold it together.
Can someone post a setup that might work or moint me in the right direction of where i'm going wrong. Been trying the Chris Ashton carpet setup from the manual but even with the roll bar added and the rear shocks moved in further the car is still very loose off power and in high speed corners on power.
Thanks

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Look at the first set of Mi2 EC setups and the bottom of the thread with mine, might help.

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Hey Steve all my stuff showed up today. THe one way outdrives and my packs. Damn I got lucky for this weekend. Now just have to see if I actually have a carpet rear tower (I think I only have a front carpet tower). Not a huge deal if I don't.

Thanks PW for getting out those outdrives.
Good to hear you got everything. I wish I didn't have to work. But, I didn't get my cells for the sedan. I will have them next week. Are you racing in Frederick next weekend? I'm planning on being there.
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Good to hear you got everything. I wish I didn't have to work. But, I didn't get my cells for the sedan. I will have them next week. Are you racing in Frederick next weekend? I'm planning on being there.
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