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Old 01-09-2010, 08:27 PM   #1
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Default Tamiya 959 - help getting it back on the road

I have a Traxxas Nitro Revo Platinum Edition that I bash with and my wife kindly reminded me I have my old Porsche 959 Tamiya kit sitting on the shelves in the garage...

Not very pretty as you can see below, but bare minimum I would need to get batteries and a new speed control. The reason I stopped driving it was because the old speed control got all glitchy (mechanical speed controls were awesome!)

Is there any way to run a brushless setup with a modern ESC in it? Would it even be worth it or would it be better just to get something newer for the occasional on road jam?

I stopped by the Tamiya track in Aliso Viejo today and saw the on-road guys and it was pretty awesome. It would be cool to run the 959 again on that track there.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:52 PM   #2
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I have a Traxxas Nitro Revo Platinum Edition that I bash with and my wife kindly reminded me I have my old Porsche 959 Tamiya kit sitting on the shelves in the garage...

Not very pretty as you can see below, but bare minimum I would need to get batteries and a new speed control. The reason I stopped driving it was because the old speed control got all glitchy (mechanical speed controls were awesome!)

Is there any way to run a brushless setup with a modern ESC in it? Would it even be worth it or would it be better just to get something newer for the occasional on road jam?

I stopped by the Tamiya track in Aliso Viejo today and saw the on-road guys and it was pretty awesome. It would be cool to run the 959 again on that track there.


Loved that car, was fast back in the day, thanks for a great Tamiya flashback!!!...lol
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Parts are going to be a problem mainly due to cost and availability. You're be competing with folks restoring their 959's so it might be more cost effective gettings something else. I'm not sure if a brushless will fit since as I recall it was 'clamped' in the chassis rather than bolted. The body on that was awesome and the included Technigold motor was sweat!
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:23 PM   #4
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That chassis doesn't have a motor mount as such. The motor is just clamped between the rear bulkhead and the battery compartment with the aid of a locating plastic ring on the rear bushing/bearing housing of the motor can and held against counter rotation by a screw head on the front of the can that locates in a little recess in the rear bulkhead. Modern B/L motors would have the locationg screw hole in the right place, but the rear end of the can is totally different as it doesn't have the protruding bearing housing. That will be quite a challenge to overcome.

Apart from that, I wouldn't risk destroying the gears with a brushless in that car. Pinion choice is limited to one (or two, I think you can have a 16 or 18 tooth pinion with associated plastic gears) if I remember correctly. This hardly gives you the right pinion choice for brushless so getting the right gear will be a choice of motors rather than gears.

But apart from all that, the car is not really competitive. It is fragile and limited tuning-wise. The suspension is a joke and there is no way to tune diff action. I remember I broke one front gear housing straight out of the box with a low speed impact (where it attches to the battery compartment, it is held in place with only one screw and a locking aluminium tab. This is really pathetic as teh entire frnt end of the car is attached to the rest at this joint.)

Finding bearings for them is not that difficult ( a must for any high power application), but you will need a number (two or four, can't remember exactly) of really small bearings (2x6x3 IIRC) and these are found in some slot cars which makes them a bit tricky to get hold of.

Don't get me wrong, I love these cars and I have restored two already but I rarely take them out and then only for dirt tracks where there's nothing to hit. One of my cars even has the centre differential option installed but that again is just for curiosity as on the dirt track it is just useless (as soon as you hang one wheel, you lose traction). Locked diffs would make a lot more sense. On road, there is no choice of tires as the wheels hexes only fit the Tamiya wheels and these only have one tire option for offroad and one for on-road. All these being discontinued a long time ago, whatever old stock you find will be aged and hard.

Have fun with it, it's a great little oddity with incredible charm, but racer it ain't. You might however want to consider restoring it as a shelf queen in which case I strongly suggest you start looking for parts. Since I restored my cars (a few years ago), I have noticed that part stocks are seriously depleted in all the usual places. This might mean they could fetch a nice price even as a source of spares but there is only one way to check that one out and I am definitely not selling anything. the only good news is that there are a bunch of companies floating about which are making repro Porsche 959 bodyshells and they're getting better with each iteration. If your shell is in good shape (i.e. no cracks, bits broken off) you can still salvage and restore it to concours condition but it ain't going to be easy. Remember, that's probably the most valuable bit of the car, together with an original Rothmans decal set.
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Awesome replies thanks guys!

It is going up on ebay after a good cleaning unless someone here wants it - I will be posting it shortly in the marketplace section for someone to use for parts.

It was only ran about 10 times in all....
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use an old can of nitro fuel left over from the season to strip that body of all that bad paint. works super. dont do brushless. old car's drivetrain isnt really up to the task. that and it just 'feels' wrong heh.

good luck resto or sell.

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There's a guy that has nice repro bodies..

http://cgi.ebay.com/TAMIYA-PORSCHE-9...e#ht_500wt_956
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More picstures are posted at:

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Tron, did you ever sell your 959?
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:43 AM   #10
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Yes, I did sell it to another forum member, I should PM him to see if it has been restored to it's former glory.

I replaced the 959 with a 416 world edition, pretty huge difference
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