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Old 01-11-2010, 01:15 PM   #16
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So the Ballistic motor has adjustable timing and the SS Pro does not?
No you can adjust the timing on both.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:09 PM   #17
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No you can adjust the timing on both.
OK, thanks. I didn't see anything in the instructions or information on the Novak site about adjusting the timing on the SS Pro.
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OK, thanks. I didn't see anything in the instructions or information on the Novak site about adjusting the timing on the SS Pro.
Loosen the screws on the sensor side of the endbell (dont have to remove them) and turn the colored ring, left to advance right to retard. Well not really retard, they come with 30 degrees of timing from the factory, so zero is actually 30.
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Old 01-11-2010, 06:58 PM   #19
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Loosen the screws on the sensor side of the endbell (dont have to remove them) and turn the colored ring, left to advance right to retard. Well not really retard, they come with 30 degrees of timing from the factory, so zero is actually 30.
Thanks a lot, I appreciate the information!
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:20 AM   #21
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Here is Steve's response to a couple of the timing questioned asked above:

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The range of timing adjustment on the SS motors is limited and somewhat inconsistent. We set the timing to approx 30 degrees as we currently do on the ballistic. Your "average" range of adjustment on the SS series of motors was from about 15 to 45 degrees... This is the reason why we made the timing label on the ballistic reflect these particular values.

Some SS motors will not allow for this amount of adjustment however: the tolerances among the stator, rotor, and sensor could build up in either direction to allow for more than a total of 45 degrees possible or less than 45 degrees possible.

Performance differences between the SS and Ballistic teardowns is generally attributed to differences in rotor strength, but there is one design attribute that differs between the SS and ballistic that may also contribute to the difference in performance: The air gap between the sensor assembly and the rotor itself. This gap is relatively small on most of the SS series of motors and was increased on the ballistic motors. When tested on the dyno this difference in air gaps to the rotor resulted in changes that were similar to running different timing values. A bigger gap acts like more timing whereas a smaller gap acts like less timing.
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Here is a technical article from our website, a trouble-shooting guide:

Trouble-shooting TeamNovak's One Touch™ Speed Controls

It includes a lot of useful tips on installation and speed control set-up; a good reference to check out and keep handy.

This is the link to our Technical Reference Index---for your reading enjoyment.....

TeamNovak Technical Reference Index
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In order to ensure that the replaceable sensor harness doesn’t easily fall out of the ballistic motor accidentally, the end bell was designed to snuggly retain the end of the sensor harness in its connector.

As such, removal of the harness requires special attention so as to not damage the harness itself.

1. It is advised to note the timing setting on the motor.
2. Using a 1.5 mm wrench, loosen the three flat head screws holding the end cap and sensor assembly in place.
3. Once loosened, grasp the sensor harness as close to the connector as possible.
4. Gently “walk” the sensor harness connector out of the motor’s connector by wiggling the connector side to side.
a. NOTE: You may need to pull up slightly on the harness as there is a small lip on the endbell that may impede the removal of the sensor harness connector in certain circumstances.
5. Once the harness is removed, it can easily be replaced at this point.
6. Next, retighten the three 1.5 mm screws in the end cap, ensuring that the timing setting is set to where it was noted before the sensor harness removal process was begun.
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Sweet tips! Thanks.
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We have been discussing both a Havoc 2S/Ballistic 25.5 "combo" and a Havoc Pro/Ballistic 25.5 "system". Systems are soldered/wired/tested together; combos are just sold together in separate packaging.

The pricing for these additional offerings would not be as attractive as the Havoc 2S/SS Pro 25.5 system (@129.99) which we are offering to keep the entry cost down for both new guys interested in getting involved in the USVTA, and for anyone else racing on a budget.
Any idea when/if this is going to happen?
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I like the ballistic combo offering as for those of us who also run offroad, we can just do a stator swap and have a new motor, keeping costs down that way. When the rules of USVTA were changing, that was why I went with the ballistic now as other than my daughters using the slower 21.5 to learn how to control the cars, no other class really uses them out here.
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Any idea when/if this is going to happen?
I will have pricing for these items next week.

We are temporarily back-ordered on the RMF Havoc 2S esc, but we are getting more delivered to inventory.
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yeah, found that out when I ordered beginning this week. Said would be 1 week wait time.

For items like this with little weight (ordered 2 havoc RMFs), does novak usually ship via priority mail or is it all going UPS ground?
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yeah, found that out when I ordered beginning this week. Said would be 1 week wait time.

For items like this with little weight (ordered 2 havoc RMFs), does novak usually ship via priority mail or is it all going UPS ground?
I will check; however, I think that all store shipments go UPS so we can provide the UPS tracking info to customers.

Cain, if you want, you can PM me your name and shipping info and I will check the status of your order.
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thanks. sending a PM now
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