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Old 03-17-2010, 01:44 AM   #481
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power fade is to much timing or over geared.
All setup issues.

With the new speedo's it's good to now what the motor can handle, the timing on the motor and the gearing to use.
Keep the timing under the 65 in total.
It can go higher but as you are to long above the 60 to 65 timing, you get power fading and a hotter motor.

So when you have a motor with a high timing on it, set it lower or don't set the timing in the speedo to high.
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well thats a good point, but nobody mentioned that in any way in the manuals or in the forums. in addition my mates ran the same speedo with diffrerent settings, one where everything was turned up and one with more conservative settings. anyway, power fades still remained. anyhow, i sold the tekin weeks ago so no problemo there anymore the point i am trying to make is, that the lrp's are way more simple to setup than eg. the tekins. my problem (besides the power and the breaking issues) that finding the right setup (boost, turbo, delay, rpm's, gearing etc) took me 4-5 runs. but i only had like 5 controlled practice runs for each race. so by the time i was finished with the speedo setup sometimes the weekend was over, or i hadnt worked on the car itself to make it faster as my efforts often went into the speedo setup.

anywho, i am curious to see if LRP sorted the problems out with the MK3 software update and cant wait to test it in the coming weekends.
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Had a chance to run my SXX on the weekend.

Ran a Duo 2 10.5 geared at 8.4 with the Feel on 4 and boost on 8.

Car was ballistic out of corners and top speed was impressive, the motor came back at 60 degrees Celsius all day.

Overall very impressed
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What was your brake setting?

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i cant get threw to the guys at the german factory has anyone got the address contacts for these guys i need to send my speedo off.
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What was your brake setting?

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Hey Gary

I ran the standard setting for the brake which is 0 of the top of my head. The car had more then adequate brakes for me lol

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hi mikky,
well thats a good point, but nobody mentioned that in any way in the manuals or in the forums. in addition my mates ran the same speedo with diffrerent settings, one where everything was turned up and one with more conservative settings. anyway, power fades still remained. anyhow, i sold the tekin weeks ago so no problemo there anymore the point i am trying to make is, that the lrp's are way more simple to setup than eg. the tekins. my problem (besides the power and the breaking issues) that finding the right setup (boost, turbo, delay, rpm's, gearing etc) took me 4-5 runs. but i only had like 5 controlled practice runs for each race. so by the time i was finished with the speedo setup sometimes the weekend was over, or i hadnt worked on the car itself to make it faster as my efforts often went into the speedo setup.

anywho, i am curious to see if LRP sorted the problems out with the MK3 software update and cant wait to test it in the coming weekends.
I set my Tekin up in 2 runs.
Some times even in just one. It depends on the track.
Also most of the time I use quit the same setup.

The new SXX ss isn't that easy as the SPX was. I see a lot of people trying different setups. but non of them gets the infield good. They all complain about that there comes a extra gear in just before the corner.
They all run MK2 software that has also problems with the LRP X12.

Only 1 SXX ss driver has beaten me but he still does it with a SPX so it's not the speedo.
The first race he drove with the SXX ss was also his last race with it.
He became 2 after winning all the other races with the SPX before.
The driver that normally gets second won from him with a SXX TC.
He bought a GM Genius 120 V2 and he broke the track record. He also won the last race.
The SXX ss driver is also going to switch from speedo.
He is not happy with it and he drove the last race mod because of it.
He didn't find a setup that worked well.
He drove with my car and he found it better than the SXX ss.
He missed punch like the SPX had.
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I set my Tekin up in 2 runs.
Some times even in just one. It depends on the track.
Also most of the time I use quit the same setup.

The new SXX ss isn't that easy as the SPX was. I see a lot of people trying different setups. but non of them gets the infield good. They all complain about that there comes a extra gear in just before the corner.
They all run MK2 software that has also problems with the LRP X12.

Only 1 SXX ss driver has beaten me but he still does it with a SPX so it's not the speedo.
The first race he drove with the SXX ss was also his last race with it.
He became 2 after winning all the other races with the SPX before.
The driver that normally gets second won from him with a SXX TC.
He bought a GM Genius 120 V2 and he broke the track record. He also won the last race.
The SXX ss driver is also going to switch from speedo.
He is not happy with it and he drove the last race mod because of it.
He didn't find a setup that worked well.
He drove with my car and he found it better than the SXX ss.
He missed punch like the SPX had.
I don't know if this is the problem or not but most guys seem to be picking too high a profile and then losing all the bottom end and the boost kicking in, in weird places. I did some testing with 13.5 12th the other day and figured, well, 1S, slow motor etc, should be able to use a much high profile than my tc. I started with 8 and was having boost kick in problems at weird times, and had no punch what so ever. I need to do a little more testing but boost 5seemed to work really well. I am thinking I will try 4 next time and gear up a little more. Seems to me that if you pick the right profile you can gear the motors similar to an spx or old tekin software but with this speedo you actually have more HP than the older speedos. Higher profiles and lower gearing is not working as good for me right now.

For 13.5 rubber tc what was working for me was boost 4, 7.3final and 4 dot timing.

With the duo 1 motors the lower timing hole also was better.

Hope this helps.
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I did some testing with 13.5 12th the other day and figured, well, 1S, slow motor etc, should be able to use a much high profile than my tc. I started with 8 and was having boost kick in problems at weird times, and had no punch what so ever. I need to do a little more testing but boost 5seemed to work really well. I am thinking I will try 4 next time and gear up a little more.
Definitely keep me (and RCTECH) updated on your findings. You are basically describing the problems I have been having with mine still in 1S, 1/12th.....

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Ditto...

On profile 8 boost was kicking in at very odd places and motor felt kinda flat.

I did not get a chance to test much as I was running into other issues.

Does anyone have trouble in 1 cell mode.

The car cut out 2x during a run. I did not have a recv pack or spare recv to test with so I am not 100% sure if it is the speedo or something else.

Kinda frustrating but what can you do.
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I don't know if this is the problem or not but most guys seem to be picking too high a profile and then losing all the bottom end and the boost kicking in, in weird places. I did some testing with 13.5 12th the other day and figured, well, 1S, slow motor etc, should be able to use a much high profile than my tc. I started with 8 and was having boost kick in problems at weird times, and had no punch what so ever. I need to do a little more testing but boost 5seemed to work really well. I am thinking I will try 4 next time and gear up a little more. Seems to me that if you pick the right profile you can gear the motors similar to an spx or old tekin software but with this speedo you actually have more HP than the older speedos. Higher profiles and lower gearing is not working as good for me right now.

For 13.5 rubber tc what was working for me was boost 4, 7.3final and 4 dot timing.

With the duo 1 motors the lower timing hole also was better.

I gear now about the same as the SXX ss and the mamba's.
Gearing is closer to each other than with the SPX and the V200 and the GM speedo's.
First time i saw that the GM also has a cooler motor.


Hope this helps.
Ok he was using mode 7 with a LRP X11 10,5T.
Is that to high?
He had still MK1 I thought.
Some other drivers have the MK2 and not every body want's to send it back.
Most of them are going to change from speedo.
1 of them uses it as reserve speedo. He already changed to the GM.

So higher modes are more for the 17,5T and the 21,5T?
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Well, I'm still having the stuttering problem, but it seems to be getting better as I use the lower profiles. I'm finding what Chicky said to be true, in that the ESC seems to work its best with lower profiles and more gear.

I still can't tell if it's outright as fast as a Tekin, but it's WAY smoother.
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Well, I'm still having the stuttering problem, but it seems to be getting better as I use the lower profiles. I'm finding what Chicky said to be true, in that the ESC seems to work its best with lower profiles and more gear.

I still can't tell if it's outright as fast as a Tekin, but it's WAY smoother.
It's fast on the straight but you can let the Tekin go faster on the straight.
But this is not always better with the Tekin.
I had a lot of more straight end speed but I changed it to get a lower top speed and now those are about the same.
The advantage of that is, is that I now have a bit more infield speed and that the car is better to drive ad the end of the straight with the sweeper.
I won meters with the higher top speed but in time it was not much.
Now with the other setup I win more time on the competition.
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Ok he was using mode 7 with a LRP X11 10,5T.
Is that to high?
He had still MK1 I thought.
Some other drivers have the MK2 and not every body want's to send it back.
Most of them are going to change from speedo.
1 of them uses it as reserve speedo. He already changed to the GM.

So higher modes are more for the 17,5T and the 21,5T?
Well I have not tested 10.5 yet in 2S but from what I think I might know so far, 7 would be WAY too high a profile. I'd almost want to start at 3 or 4 and see what that does. What kind of final drive are you guys using and on what size track?

My experience with 17.5 2S has been good from 4-6 depending on the motor so 7 on a 10.5 I would think is way too high. See what happens, maybe I am wrong. Let me know what you find.
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has anyone from outside europe manage to send their stock specs back to Reto himself?

I contacted him and he basically said NO.

I contacted Associated, and they say there is NO FIRMWARE UPDATE!

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