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Old 01-06-2010, 12:12 PM   #16
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A mAh limit won't work. But you can reduce the limit to a specific range by reducing the size of the case.
How is it going to prevent me from buying the latest and greatest expensive pack that fits considerable more energy than anything else on the current scene? Few years down the road such smaller pack will be 5Ah or more as we have today.

You can't put $$ amount, size limits or capacity limits without considering everything else that is part of the equation.

OP and his colleagues wants to be competitive but can't afford it. Affordability is simply not the objective of ROAR (talking about ROAR because these are the only rules I am so-so familiar with).
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The RCGT Showdown Series (www.rcgtshowdown.com) races for 7 mins with a 5200mah limit on batteries.
This is not going to fit OP's second objective: "reduce the cost of competing". Also, you can't level the playing field with legal equipment costing as much as a used vehicle.
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:25 PM   #18
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This is just my opinion,

Radio Control governing body should regulate or control : weight minimum, trackwidth, chassis type, body shell, stock motor's rpm ( note : modified class should get no motor restrictions, otherwise it's not modified motor ), tires type, tires width, what aerodynamic aids allowed, race length and rules, battery safety, and lastly grouping racers by lap times and lap counts.

Let alone batteries, esc, motor and car manufactures.
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:35 PM   #19
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This is just my opinion,

Radio Control governing body should regulate or control : weight minimum, trackwidth, chassis type, body shell, stock motor's rpm ( note : modified class should get no motor restrictions, otherwise it's not modified motor ), tires type, tires width, what aerodynamic aids allowed, race length and rules, battery safety, and lastly grouping racers by lap times and lap counts.

Let alone batteries, esc, motor and car manufactures.
How are you going to measure and enforce "stock motor's rpm"? You can't even do that and let motors alone.

Manufacturers should be responsible for manufacturing safe batteries. Anybody else claiming that their batteries are safe is asking for legal troubles. But I think you have a flier with every battery with legal statemtns just like the one on cigarettes: "Use on your own risk". Please do yourself a favor and do not go by what anybody else say about packs and if in any doubts consult your lawyer and ask who is accountable if you burn down a local track facility and connected stores for example or cause injuries to somebody else.
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Being competitive requires drivers to be grouped by skill level. ROAR rules just don't do that. Racers would need to be seperated by Amateur, Expert, and Professional.

Cost control of competing can be done with price limits and the age of the technology. Manufacturers will not produce out-dated technology forever and racers want new technology, so cost-controlled racing would need to be done with price limits.

Set price limits on amateur class equipment and there you go.
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This is not going to fit OP's second objective: "reduce the cost of competing". Also, you can't level the playing field with legal equipment costing as much as a used vehicle.
you can never "reduce the cost of competing" because someone will always have a home track advantage.

stock classes should be 9 mins or longer. with a 5200mah limit on capacity. or make it long enough to remove any advantages Type A esc has over Type B esc.

dont tell me about "prolonged" race days. on-road numbers are constantly dwindling anyways.
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Set price limits on amateur class equipment and there you go.
Some good ideas there but why not limit motors to for example 150W for amateur class?

That way you can buy your ESC and battery once and as you progress all you need to do is to swap a motor. You can use the latest ESC and packs so it would not be in the way of progress or speed as everybody is so afraid of loosing. With such limit on the motor you can use any battery, dosn't even need to go through the painful process of approval. It would actually open a gate to new technologies that are halted for now and fix this:
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on-road numbers are constantly dwindling
The problem is solved!
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Any one tried this? Are they ROAR legal? SMC C-MAX 5200mah 50C

http://www.rc-toro.com/product_info....oducts_id/1915
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Does anybody cycle their new lipo battery and if so how do you do it?
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How do you break in a new lipo battery?
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just run it.
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