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Old 12-27-2009, 02:34 PM   #1
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I've heard about them but where can I find them.
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Tuned silvercans? Hehh...how much RPM's would these go to? BTW, are these legal in any way?
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Tuned silvercans? Hehh...how much RPM's would these go to? BTW, are these legal in any way?
Nothing I know of is illegal about them. Just not to be used when a HAND OUT motor is used. Its been broken in just enough for that mini
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Tuned silvercans? Hehh...how much RPM's would these go to? BTW, are these legal in any way?
I get mine anywhere from 15,000-17,000+ at 5v. Dr. has been selling these on this forum for some time, and I will not be b/c I dont wanna "step on his toes", unless he does not mind it. Only thing, I am in Canada so shipping would be a little more.
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Dyno numbers?
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Dyno numbers?
If you are asking if im using a dyno then the answer is yes. If you want specific numbers, i have that as well, written down for every motor i do.
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Barry (and while we're at it, I'm a BIG FAN)-

Red Dot silver can motors (we also do runs of black can Sport Tuned and Slash 12T Titan motors) are made from unopened Tamiya #53689 cores. Our motors have won many, many (many) club and regional events all over the world but have NEVER been disqualified.

USA motors typically pull around 16,000 to 18,000+ RPM at five volts with good torque vs. about 11,200 for one out of the box. Power numbers for out of the box motors are between 28-32, but Red Dots run around 38-40. That's a significant difference.

On request, we can also supply TCS Canada-legal motors that comply with the 1.3 amp @ 2 volts Canada TCS rule- note that these motors have somewhat lower RPM and torque.

We also supply gearing advice to ensure that our motors are geared properly. They are all numbered so you can tell them apart. E-mail is still [email protected]. We do about one run of motors each month, & mostly they sell out in advance. Next run is scheduled for the week of January 10th.

Can of worms = opened.

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I've watched (and used) Doc's motors first hand. They're the best you'll get your hands on.
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Second that. You will not find a better silver can or person to deal with. Doc is a class act and for his motors, one word FAST!!!!!
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Barry (and while we're at it, I'm a BIG FAN)-

Red Dot silver can motors (we also do runs of black can Sport Tuned and Slash 12T Titan motors) are made from unopened Tamiya #53689 cores. Our motors have won many, many (many) club and regional events all over the world but have NEVER been disqualified.

USA motors typically pull around 16,000 to 18,000+ RPM at five volts with good torque vs. about 11,200 for one out of the box. Power numbers for out of the box motors are between 28-32, but Red Dots run around 38-40. That's a significant difference.

On request, we can also supply TCS Canada-legal motors that comply with the 1.3 amp @ 2 volts Canada TCS rule- note that these motors have somewhat lower RPM and torque.

We also supply gearing advice to ensure that our motors are geared properly. They are all numbered so you can tell them apart. E-mail is still [email protected]. We do about one run of motors each month, & mostly they sell out in advance. Next run is scheduled for the week of January 10th.

Can of worms = opened.

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Doc, what amp draw are your 16,000-18,000 motors drawing?
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It varies, but typically somewhere between the high one's and the mid two's, but we're not sure it's all that relevant when you're talking about freewheel/unladen RPM. These motors draw so few amps compared to open endbell motors that you can get a good hard dyno pull from a 30 amp power supply.

Most of our development work over the last two years has been in refining the power curve and making sure it's in the right place for the application for which the motor is being used. For example, our Red Dot 15K's are designed to have their power peak right around 7500 RPM when under load. That's ideal for general use, spec racing series, TT01's, etc. But our full race motors develop more peak power at a much higher RPM because they're used in F1's or sedan classes by a (generally) more sophisticated racer who's going to gear them appropriately. As it turns out, they are also ideal for full-race Mini drivers.

Relatively speaking, RPM is easy. Power is hard.
Right motor for right application = hardest.
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What would be faster. A red dot or a Tamiya 32T formula motor?
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What would be faster. A red dot or a Tamiya 32T formula motor?
average silver can is faster than a 32T...

32T would stand no chance against a 13.5k - 15K Red Dot.
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