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Old 01-16-2010, 11:51 PM   #106
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just raced it in my truck and since there is no nemesis thread in the offroad section ill just post the vid here when its uploaded. E-firestorm truck (heavy as hell) and the truck moved around pretty well. The weight of the tranny and truck held it back though. I think im going to crank the timing higher and gear down a tooth or two. It has plenty of power so im not sure if its my ESC (XBR) or weight of the truck keeping it form pulling harder where i need it to.


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Old 01-17-2010, 09:05 AM   #107
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I a ran the 17.5 last night for the first time in "race conditions" with a FDR of 6.5 and NO motor timing. ESC is a Tekin RS on throttle profile 5, timing at 25 and full boost. Motor temp came off around 155.

It was not the fastest car out there but it was very smooth and easy to drive. in the technical infield.
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:25 AM   #108
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Default Some more info on the Nemisis

Did you guys know that you are not supposed to free spin your motor while the car is unloaded? This means you should not be pulling the throttle while the car is off the ground with this motor.

My motor's magnet exploded when I was testing my car in the pits. I was pulling on the throttle slowly and for no more than 2 seconds; barely got to full throttle and then the motor jammed. Took the screws out and discovered my magnets crumbled into pieces, the pieces destroyed the rotor too.

Customer service wrote back saying these motors have very high rpm and if you run the motor unloaded, motor can blow up and this is not a manufacturer's defect.

I didn't know I wasn't supposed to "free spin" the motor, as I've done it will all my other motors. So just letting you folks know that this can happen.
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Old 01-18-2010, 01:27 PM   #109
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yeah ive been told that by other folks in the past about different motors here and there.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:52 PM   #110
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Even brushed motors can be damaged when run full throttle with no load.
Just not a good habit to have.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:22 AM   #111
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I will be at my local track where I have been having really good luck with the Nemesis Motors. I will be running 13.5 1/12 1s, 13.5 wgt as well as 17.5 TC class. I will report back my findings to you all on sunday night. I am pretty confident I will have all the speed I need out of these motors. You really have to watch the gearing and time on the motors but I have found them to be really fast. Also, I will be playing with the tuning rotors as I feel the less powerful rotor may be the ticket in 1s classes.

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Follow Up...

I raced at my local track in three classes using Epic Nemesis Motor and Epic Lipo Batteries and here are the following results

1/12th scale 1s 13.5 Nemesis - 2nd Place A Main
World GT 1s 13.5 Nemesis - 2nd Place A Main
TC Latemodel Oval 2s 17.5 Nemesis - 1st Place A Main and New Track Record!

These motors are fast when you take the time to learn the power band and set the timing. Less timing is better. I am running mine between 0-10 Degrees Max on the actual motor.

I am finding that I am running on average 3-6 Teeth less (64 Pitch) than I had ran with pervious motors.

Also my friend used two Nemesis Motors as well last weekend and took second in oval behind me...

Have not had a slow one yet.

But word of caution, if you do not adjust your gear ratio and watch the boost and turbo on the speedos you will have fade very quickly with this motor due to heat build up and it will happen fast and the motor will even feel cool to the touch but them warm up quickly.

Just my -98cents worth.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:41 AM   #112
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Glad to see some guys are listening about lowering the teeth on there pinion and staying low on the timing. If you go much over 15 on timing you will fade fast and most likely burn up the motor. We are finding that -5 timing and more timing in the speedo is the best way to run. Ran a duo2 then a nemesis this past weekend on high bite carpet and was 2 tenths faster with the nemesis set up this way.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:30 AM   #113
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Glad to see some guys are listening about lowering the teeth on there pinion and staying low on the timing. If you go much over 15 on timing you will fade fast and most likely burn up the motor. We are finding that -5 timing and more timing in the speedo is the best way to run. Ran a duo2 then a nemesis this past weekend on high bite carpet and was 2 tenths faster with the nemesis set up this way.
I have found the only way to add gear is to reduce timing. I am going to try running -5 Degrees and adding one tooth to see how it runs next week. Will keep you all posted again. These motors seem to be a bit more sensitive to timing and gear than others, but stupid fast when you find the sweet spot.
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-5 timing and more timing in the speedo is the best way to run.
timing. 10dg+ best lap 12.8/ timing -5dg best lap 11.9
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Hey guys i have a nemisis for sale in australian for sale thread for $80 au with optional rotors included so 2 extra rotors that are legal to run!!
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Old 01-24-2010, 03:16 PM   #116
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Default nemissis 10.5 gearing

Hi all.
.Wanting to run my 10.5 nemisis in my T3..
Have got a duo2 at 8.10/lrp SPX Stock spec/profile 7 rollout of 24.42...
Motor is at 70.deg C...
What would a good starting point be for this motor..we have a LONG straight of 70 metes or so with a tight infield....
I have taken 1 gear off...8.55 now/ roll out of 23.14....
any help would be nice..
also a start point for the 17.5 nemisis..
using LRP SPX Stock speck profile 7..T2-009. Have an Orion version 2 in it,,,Gear is 25/78 /rollout of 37.3..
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:29 AM   #117
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Default 10.5 nemisis gearing video

..Tried the new Nemisis 10.5 today
Roll-out with the Express duo 2,,8.1,,it was fast..70deg C SPX profile 7..
Nemisis..10.64...big jump...will see how it is sunday..
Suspect some more playing.
Im thinking 10.3ish..
see the youtube..
i have pieced a lap of 15/84,,16/84..18/84..(didnt have a 17)..listen to how the motor winds out on the straight..and the tone of the motor in the in field..Very interesting to hear..and see.

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Great video and information. I suspect you are a good tuner.

I need a car cam to find my gearing....

Watch and learn everyone...
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So what temps should I want to see after 5 mins with the 17.5 and correct gearing? Rubber tire carpet. Fahrenheit please.


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..Tried the new Nemisis 10.5 today
Roll-out with the Express duo 2,,8.1,,it was fast..70deg C SPX profile 7..
Nemisis..10.64...big jump...will see how it is sunday..
Suspect some more playing.
Im thinking 10.3ish..
see the youtube..
i have pieced a lap of 15/84,,16/84..18/84..(didnt have a 17)..listen to how the motor winds out on the straight..and the tone of the motor in the in field..Very interesting to hear..and see.

Mike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uPnr2TRORI
Thanks for the info! So that was running +10 motor timing for all runs?
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