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Old 05-04-2010, 11:18 AM   #421
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:30 PM   #422
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Hmmm....nobody has tried the Losi springs yet? They have a better range of springs and I bet they would fit perfect....guess I'll be the first
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:47 AM   #423
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I would have but I sold my Losi with the springs =(
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:31 AM   #424
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I m waiting for my Tamiya short springs #53333 and #42168, should be coming in the next days, so i can test the car this weekend, I m so exited.
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3 Racing next week had short spring arrive !
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:51 AM   #426
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New parts released !
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:02 AM   #427
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Anybody knows where can I get Pink batt strap tape , pink 12awg wires and pink alum or titanium turnbuckles that fit Sakura? I want to dress it up.

For RCMarket, for some reason I still can't access your website, be it on IE, Google Chrome or Mozzila. I want to order some Sakura stuff from you.
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Anybody knows where can I get Pink batt strap tape , pink 12awg wires and pink alum or titanium turnbuckles that fit Sakura? I want to dress it up.

For RCMarket, for some reason I still can't access your website, be it on IE, Google Chrome or Mozzila. I want to order some Sakura stuff from you.
I was having the same problems with IE6. With newer versions (or Ophera) I don't have any problems.

Nice Parts RC Market!

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Does anyone know the internal ratio of this car, kit standard as it's for a m8 who's just bought one of these.
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Old 05-07-2010, 12:16 AM   #430
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Does anyone know the internal ratio of this car, kit standard as it's for a m8 who's just bought one of these.
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Its 1.9 for the stock internal ratio (38T diff pulley and 20T mid pulley)
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Old 05-08-2010, 08:31 AM   #432
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Either one but I would go with the 53333, you will need Extra hard as well which is a white tamiya spring.

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Troy which tamiya extra hard white spring is that? Do you have the part no for it?

My orders of Tamiya short springs #53333 and #42168 have arrived yesterday. Basically both sets are the same its just the difference in colours.

So I sort of mini tested the car today using these springs, in my hands,I felt that the springs are too soft. This was confirmed when I tested the car on the track. The car has too much roll and the chassis was easily bottoming out during braking and hard corners. I m sure if I get a proper hardness springs that the car should be as good as I like it to be. One more thing when using these springs, I can't get ride height lower than 6mm at the front, and thats already with 0 preload on the shock collar. Now I m just waiting for 3Racing to release the springs set next week as mentioned by RCMarket, until then I m going to try out some shorts springs thats available here locally, the ABC Hobby springs for their mini 4wd and the Active hobby A210SS springs, hopefully it will work as I really intend to race this car by next week's FEMCA indoor carpet race.

Overall I m more than satisfied with this car, the quality is amazing, fit and finish is the best that I have seen (yes, above my Tamiya 416x standards), no shims to add anywhere to minimized slops (well except 2 places, the spur gears which i had to add 0.2mm shims on both side of the shaft and under the diff bearing eccentric upper cover which I had to add 0.3mm shims on all 8 screws to free up the diff bearings).
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Sounds like you got the std touring car sets. Troy would be talking about the Mini short springs, which are 2/3 the length.

The Tammy springs should not be too soft, they are equivalent in weight to pretty much every rubber tc car spring weights.

f you can get 6mm front ride height in kit config, see if you can find a set of the original tamiya plastic shock preload adjusters, these are only half as thick, and will get you down to the needed 5mm.
Also as RC Market posted, the 1mm down spring perches will help too.

Good pickup on the bulkhead caps, this is something Jilles suggests for the 416 also, on my car i took a cylindrical sanding stone, and removed the anodizing from the underside of the bulkhead caps so that there is no pressure on the bearing holders.

Also, check the chassis where the belts run, if you want to use the lower diff positions you might want to trim a little under the diffs mostly on the front where the belt will actually touch.
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An update on my car with the switched servo possie, the car felt immediately very smooth to drive, no real difference in steering speed was noticeable.

Overall the car felt much more nimble and balanced left to right with the servo change and the belt swap.

I will have to post some pics on monday when i am back at work.

I also mounted the hard top deck, running on a very high grip treated track, the car felt much smoother through the corner, although at the expense of some steering, which could be gained back with setup changes. Interestingly the hard deck is the smae shape at the rear, only thicker through the front and middle, so it can be used as a tuning aid on all surfaces to increas and decrease front end grip as needed.

After racing finished, i tried to mount the 21tooth centre pullies, the rear is fine, but the front belt on the loosest setting is like a buitar string, so not sure if there should be some different belts coming to match up with the new pullies.

Note for high wind spec classes, you could easily go to a 22t centre pulley and use 416 diff pullies which are 37 instead of kit 38 for a lower internal ratio so you dont need to use stupid size gears.
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Sounds like you got the std touring car sets. Troy would be talking about the Mini short springs, which are 2/3 the length.

The Tammy springs should not be too soft, they are equivalent in weight to pretty much every rubber tc car spring weights.

f you can get 6mm front ride height in kit config, see if you can find a set of the original tamiya plastic shock preload adjusters, these are only half as thick, and will get you down to the needed 5mm.
Also as RC Market posted, the 1mm down spring perches will help too.

Good pickup on the bulkhead caps, this is something Jilles suggests for the 416 also, on my car i took a cylindrical sanding stone, and removed the anodizing from the underside of the bulkhead caps so that there is no pressure on the bearing holders.

Also, check the chassis where the belts run, if you want to use the lower diff positions you might want to trim a little under the diffs mostly on the front where the belt will actually touch.
Hi Brad,

I bought the Tamiya short onroad springs, it is shorter than the normal one, I m not sure if its meant for Tamiya minis or TC. Anyway i ll try to get the plastic tamiya shock preload adjuster you mention, its the threaded one right? Do you happen to know on which tamiya kits it comes with? I 've never seen one. I wanted to order the 1mm down spring retainer too but I don't think it will arrive in time for my race next week.

Yes I did trim the edges on the lower opening under the front diff, its in the instruction manual too.

Anyway thanks for the tips, will report again soon, after the race....
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