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Old 05-03-2010, 05:25 PM   #406
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I would have expected the new car to take in account the taller batteries.

I agree, though to be honest, the taller IP5600 style batts were not out when it was first released, though it would have been good for it to have been future proofed.
Since the top deck is so narrow, its only a matter of a few mm that it has to be moved and really only at the rear, which would be offsetting the motor so not necessarily a bad thing.
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That's a well organized working space

But, I'm not really convinced by the angle it makes. Not only is it scratching your top deck, but how will these small angles of the arm react in driving? Looks to me that, with shortening both swing arms it will react really direct and fast. Maybe to direct and too fast. You could compensate it with curve's on your transmitter, but I don't think that's the solution. Yes, it will provide a lot more space, but what else will it do? The idea is really cool though.

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Yeah a baby in the house severely limits the amount of time spent in the toy room, so things pile up.
Thanks for the feedback however not quite understanding your comment re shorter swing arms. The link to the servo is within 2mm of the same length of the std setup, and everything is at 90 Degrees. I did have to lower the height of the servo saver arm, however this will actually increase the leverage decreasing the steering speed of the bellcrank, which would make the steering more precise as far as i can see. Top Deck clearance is tight, but nothing is touching. If it all works out i have plans to make everything more permanent, beign a new car i didnt want to hack anything up until replacement parts are readily available.

I also wanted to move as much weight toward the centre line as possible, as with the lower weight limits, and running massive heatsink and fan setups, the electronics side is generally heavy.
Hopefully i get it complete for Friday night, and can give some more feedback.
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I agree, though to be honest, the taller IP5600 style batts were not out when it was first released, though it would have been good for it to have been future proofed.
Since the top deck is so narrow, its only a matter of a few mm that it has to be moved and really only at the rear, which would be offsetting the motor so not necessarily a bad thing.
True...but that does still cause an issue with batteries that have bumps on the bottom to center them in battery slots. Will the 5000's fit ok?
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Will Tamiya short onroad springs part #5333 fit into this car? Will I have ride height issue with it? I m assembling mine at the moment and I m very impress by the quality of this kit, esp the carbon chassis, the cuts are very smooth .
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True...but that does still cause an issue with batteries that have bumps on the bottom to center them in battery slots. Will the 5000's fit ok?
What decent packs still have humps?
The Thunderpower packs fit under the top deck no problems, the new Gen of Orion, IP etc 5600 style packs are about half a mm under the top deck, but thats too close for my comfort when thins start flexing.
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Will Tamiya short onroad springs part #5333 fit into this car? Will I have ride height issue with it? I m assembling mine at the moment and I m very impress by the quality of this kit, esp the carbon chassis, the cuts are very smooth .
I have the Tamiya short on road springs and they are perfect fit. No issues with ride height at all.
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The thunder Power packs do fit under the top deck but I also offset mine on the edge of the chassis for balance.

Tamiya Short Springs do work, but on high bite surfaces you need the white spring up front because the car will roll like crazy with blue up front and yellow in the rear.

The car is rock solid though and im loving it.

Just waiting on the roll center shims and shock spring kit to come out and I am set.


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What decent packs still have humps?
The Thunderpower packs fit under the top deck no problems, the new Gen of Orion, IP etc 5600 style packs are about half a mm under the top deck, but thats too close for my comfort when thins start flexing.
My Trinity pack that I got from eXpress just about 6 months ago still has the bumps.
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My Trinity pack that I got from eXpress just about 6 months ago still has the bumps.
There have been quite a few revisions in Lipo's since then, AFAIK all new IP (trinity) packs are flat bottomed.
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I have an IP 5000/40c with humps. Fits fine. As does Fantom 5200 / 50C.
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Tamiya Short Springs do work, but on high bite surfaces you need the white spring up front because the car will roll like crazy with blue up front and yellow in the rear.

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Can you confirm the part no for the Tamiya short springs? Is it #53333 or #42168? I ll be racing this car on carpet next week, will those springs be ok with carpet set up?

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Yeah a baby in the house severely limits the amount of time spent in the toy room, so things pile up.
Thanks for the feedback however not quite understanding your comment re shorter swing arms. The link to the servo is within 2mm of the same length of the std setup, and everything is at 90 Degrees. I did have to lower the height of the servo saver arm, however this will actually increase the leverage decreasing the steering speed of the bellcrank, which would make the steering more precise as far as i can see. Top Deck clearance is tight, but nothing is touching. If it all works out i have plans to make everything more permanent, beign a new car i didnt want to hack anything up until replacement parts are readily available.

I also wanted to move as much weight toward the centre line as possible, as with the lower weight limits, and running massive heatsink and fan setups, the electronics side is generally heavy.
Hopefully i get it complete for Friday night, and can give some more feedback.
Hmm your right, I was thinking to fast. Indeed it will slowdown your steering speed. I'm interested how it preforms, but will you put more weight inbord? Or will you just put more weight out front?

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Can you confirm the part no for the Tamiya short springs? Is it #53333 or #42168? I ll be racing this car on carpet next week, will those springs be ok with carpet set up?
Either one but I would go with the 53333, you will need Extra hard as well which is a white tamiya spring.

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guys i am searching an alternative to my t2'007
i am thinking of this car now.
what do you think if you compare this car with 416x or t3
my priorities in the car as follows
1- durability
2- cheap spares
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guys i am searching an alternative to my t2'007
i am thinking of this car now.
what do you think if you compare this car with 416x or t3
my priorities in the car as follows
1- durability
2- cheap spares
3- better traction
Wait until i finish building mine (maybe in 2-3 days time), then I can tell you how does it compare with my 416x. So far I m impress by the quality of the parts.
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