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Old 12-18-2009, 07:04 PM   #16
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Never liked the motor orientation on shaft cars, it cause the chassis to pivot to one side from the motor torque...
Not a problem with brushless.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:47 PM   #17
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Not a problem with brushless.
BL motors don't spin from torque?
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:04 PM   #18
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Yea what's up with that car!

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awesomatix probably would be if it ever gets released..
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:25 PM   #19
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BL motors don't spin from torque?
The story goes, in a brushed motor, the spinning armature was a lot more rotating mass, and contributed to issues with torque steer. Apparently it's a lot less of an issue with brushless motors where only the rotor spins.
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Old 12-18-2009, 10:04 PM   #20
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I am skeptical of this as well, but I admit theory would suggest some of the issues should diminish if not disappear altogether. The counter-rotating momentum depends on mass indeed, but only in a llinear fashion. It depends on radius with the square of it, so this may factor in a lot more. The idea is that for the same mass, if it is distributed at a radius twice as big, the torque is not twice but four times bigger. Brushless rotors are not only lighter but also slimmer, so their entire mass is distributed at a smaller radius, hence the counter-rotating torque would be a lot smaller. If that is enough to make torque steer negligible or not we still have to experiment to see. The same principles however predict there will always be some residual torque steer though it is entirely possible we may not notice it.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:39 PM   #21
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My thought's would be a Yokomo LCG, the last of the SD's.

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Old 12-19-2009, 12:53 AM   #22
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i think that the tc4ft would be a killer in stock, too sad that they dont sell the car anymore.. i have been looking for one but havent found any nib car anywhere
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My thought's would be a Yokomo LCG, the last of the SD's.
Never got it going quite as fast as my BD at the time in 19t.. It still lives on as a 'pro' drifter from Brokomo though if I recall correctly..
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Yea what's up with that car!
There hasent been anything new said about the car in a very long time. Shame because it had a lot of new and interesting features. It would be popular if it ever got released i reckon.
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Enough about cars that don't exist. The best shaft drive car yet has to be the Pro 4! No other shaft drive car has had the same success. It really is just a shaft drive HB cyclone. Same arms, hubs, shocks, blocks.

As said above, brushless = much less torque steer. For stock, a well set up Pro 4 would still be a contender.
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As a recent owner of a Pro4 it does contend! I actually want it back.

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Enough about cars that don't exist. The best shaft drive car yet has to be the Pro 4! No other shaft drive car has had the same success. It really is just a shaft drive HB cyclone. Same arms, hubs, shocks, blocks.

As said above, brushless = much less torque steer. For stock, a well set up Pro 4 would still be a contender.
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I've raced my pro4 and it's sweet.
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Enough about cars that don't exist. The best shaft drive car yet has to be the Pro 4! No other shaft drive car has had the same success. It really is just a shaft drive HB cyclone. Same arms, hubs, shocks, blocks.

As said above, brushless = much less torque steer. For stock, a well set up Pro 4 would still be a contender.

I agree, the better the PRO 4 I 2 and I still use it again for training with 17.5, with performances sometimes even higher than my Cyclone
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I've raced my pro4 and it's sweet.
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How bout the Diggity Designs car?


I know it is a modified tc3/4, but it is heavily modified.
I just built the XLR8-V1 kit, and am just about finished installing the electronics. This is my first try at TC's (I'm a brushless monster truck and truggy guy) and the XLR8 seems like a solid car. I think the V2 kits were upgraded to perform better, especially with lipo and brushless in mind. For me the V1 will probably be fine, as I don't really plan to race much, if at all, just play around. Either XLR8 kit is a big upgrade and breathes new life back into the TC3 platform. You are right though, there isn't much actual TC3 left in the vehicle when you are finished building the kit!
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