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Old 12-10-2009, 11:08 AM   #16
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Everyone has been really helpful. If I have the RPM toe tool and camber guage, plus ride/droop guage am I good for a poor man's basic set-up station?
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:35 PM   #17
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Can someone please tell me how you adjust toe using the hubs?!! I'm still just as confused as I was in my first post to this thread.
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Can someone please tell me how you adjust toe using the hubs?!! I'm still just as confused as I was in my first post to this thread.
on your Avid you change this part, diffrent numbers should be available.
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Can someone please tell me how you adjust toe using the hubs?!! I'm still just as confused as I was in my first post to this thread.
haha, No Worries.

On the rear, Car companies make different Degree hubs. So Xray make 1 deg and 2 deg option rear hubs. This is built in suspension pin angle into the hub, and cannot be adjusted.

So the only way you can alter the rear outboard toe is to change between hubs.

Hope this helps, if anyone has any more questions just let me know.

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I thought those only affected camber and/or caster....
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I thought those only affected camber and/or caster....
number showing on that hub is your outter hinge toe, not an castor. castor adjust by the block that goes under your arm mounts, of cos tierod adjust your static camber.

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Are you guys saying that the only thing the c hubs affect is the outer hinge toe? They don't affect the camber?
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I thought those only affected camber and/or caster....
hey Jack,

I can help you out with that.
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Are you guys saying that the only thing the c hubs affect is the outer hinge toe? They don't affect the camber?
C Hubs are only used in the front of your car and can affect caster and camber. The rear hubs can affect outer toe (and of course total rear toe) and camber.
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I was getting the c hubs and the hub carriers confused. Nevermind, I solved my own problem. I just did a little googling. I guess for those of you who were saying hubs, that you meant hub carrier. That is part of what confused me.

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For those still a little confused;

Rear Hubs;


Front 'C' Hubs;


Which hold the steering knuckles

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Quick question, 2 degrees of inward toe in the rear, and .5 degrees of toe out in the front;

Would that make the car pretty much the same as 2.5 degrees in the the rear, and 0 in the front? I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but im just curious if that blanaces out anything
Front and rear toe are completely independent.

If you hear somebody refer to 'total toe' in the front then they are refering to left plus right ... ie. 1degree left plus 1degree right equals a total front toe of two degrees.
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