Lower the weight on Xray
#1
Lower the weight on Xray
Hello guys!!
I have a Xray T2'008 with lipo and brushless. I use a heatsink and fan on the motor and on the speed control. I also use aluminium screws.
The thing is that my car weights to much, about 20g extra than the minimum weight. What shall I do to reduce these 20g?
(I don't like the idea of not using a heatsink and fan on the motor)
All sorts of ideas is welcome, even to trim the chassis if that is necessary
I have a Xray T2'008 with lipo and brushless. I use a heatsink and fan on the motor and on the speed control. I also use aluminium screws.
The thing is that my car weights to much, about 20g extra than the minimum weight. What shall I do to reduce these 20g?
(I don't like the idea of not using a heatsink and fan on the motor)
All sorts of ideas is welcome, even to trim the chassis if that is necessary
#3
Tech Master
iTrader: (5)
Hello guys!!
I have a Xray T2'008 with lipo and brushless. I use a heatsink and fan on the motor and on the speed control. I also use aluminium screws.
The thing is that my car weights to much, about 20g extra than the minimum weight. What shall I do to reduce these 20g?
(I don't like the idea of not using a heatsink and fan on the motor)
All sorts of ideas is welcome, even to trim the chassis if that is necessary
I have a Xray T2'008 with lipo and brushless. I use a heatsink and fan on the motor and on the speed control. I also use aluminium screws.
The thing is that my car weights to much, about 20g extra than the minimum weight. What shall I do to reduce these 20g?
(I don't like the idea of not using a heatsink and fan on the motor)
All sorts of ideas is welcome, even to trim the chassis if that is necessary
- Lightweight body. Use less paint.
- Plastic spool instead of multi-diff
- Eliminate the ESC fan if running 10.5 or slower
- Change Hudy steel turnbuckles to aluminum
- Get lighter motor with cooling vents that don't require a fan and heatsink.
- Balance car with Lipo angled out before adding weight.
- Use lighter and smaller RX (ie Spectrum Micro)
- Use lighter and smaller steering servo
- Use lightened rear CVD
- Use TQ 13 gauge wires instead of 12 gauge. Short as possible.
#5
Well, I have the following equipment:
1. Lightweight body. Use less paint. :Good idea
2. Plastic spool instead of multi-diff :I already use this
3. Eliminate the ESC fan if running 10.5 or slower :I'm running 5.5 ...
4. Change Hudy steel turnbuckles to aluminum :Where do I buy these?
5. Get lighter motor with cooling vents that don't require a fan and heatsink. :What is this, where do I by it? I now use LRP X12
6. Balance car with Lipo angled out before adding weight. :This is done.
7. Use lighter and smaller RX (ie Spectrum Micro) :I use Airtronics M11 RX
8. Use lighter and smaller steering servo :I use low profile
9. Use lightened rear CVD :How much weight do I save?
10. Use TQ 13 gauge wires instead of 12 gauge. Short as possible. :Well, is the power delivery as good with 13 gauge as with 12 gauge? :They are extremely short...
The lipo i use is IP 5000, and I think it isn't to heavy
1. Lightweight body. Use less paint. :Good idea
2. Plastic spool instead of multi-diff :I already use this
3. Eliminate the ESC fan if running 10.5 or slower :I'm running 5.5 ...
4. Change Hudy steel turnbuckles to aluminum :Where do I buy these?
5. Get lighter motor with cooling vents that don't require a fan and heatsink. :What is this, where do I by it? I now use LRP X12
6. Balance car with Lipo angled out before adding weight. :This is done.
7. Use lighter and smaller RX (ie Spectrum Micro) :I use Airtronics M11 RX
8. Use lighter and smaller steering servo :I use low profile
9. Use lightened rear CVD :How much weight do I save?
10. Use TQ 13 gauge wires instead of 12 gauge. Short as possible. :Well, is the power delivery as good with 13 gauge as with 12 gauge? :They are extremely short...
The lipo i use is IP 5000, and I think it isn't to heavy
#6
Tech Elite
iTrader: (29)
Well, I have the following equipment:
1. Lightweight body. Use less paint. :Good idea
2. Plastic spool instead of multi-diff :I already use this
3. Eliminate the ESC fan if running 10.5 or slower :I'm running 5.5 ...
4. Change Hudy steel turnbuckles to aluminum :Where do I buy these?
5. Get lighter motor with cooling vents that don't require a fan and heatsink. :What is this, where do I by it? I now use LRP X12
6. Balance car with Lipo angled out before adding weight. :This is done.
7. Use lighter and smaller RX (ie Spectrum Micro) :I use Airtronics M11 RX
8. Use lighter and smaller steering servo :I use low profile
9. Use lightened rear CVD :How much weight do I save?
10. Use TQ 13 gauge wires instead of 12 gauge. Short as possible. :Well, is the power delivery as good with 13 gauge as with 12 gauge? :They are extremely short...
The lipo i use is IP 5000, and I think it isn't to heavy
1. Lightweight body. Use less paint. :Good idea
2. Plastic spool instead of multi-diff :I already use this
3. Eliminate the ESC fan if running 10.5 or slower :I'm running 5.5 ...
4. Change Hudy steel turnbuckles to aluminum :Where do I buy these?
5. Get lighter motor with cooling vents that don't require a fan and heatsink. :What is this, where do I by it? I now use LRP X12
6. Balance car with Lipo angled out before adding weight. :This is done.
7. Use lighter and smaller RX (ie Spectrum Micro) :I use Airtronics M11 RX
8. Use lighter and smaller steering servo :I use low profile
9. Use lightened rear CVD :How much weight do I save?
10. Use TQ 13 gauge wires instead of 12 gauge. Short as possible. :Well, is the power delivery as good with 13 gauge as with 12 gauge? :They are extremely short...
The lipo i use is IP 5000, and I think it isn't to heavy
Antoni
#8
How about:
Why the hell are you bothered about 20g ? I'd keep it this way, this way you'll never have any issues with the car being found underweight.
Why the hell are you bothered about 20g ? I'd keep it this way, this way you'll never have any issues with the car being found underweight.
#10
This is exactly right, I generally run my car about 40g overweight in 17.5 and have no problems running towards the front of the pack at my local track.
#11
At our big meeting last year we had the minimum set to 1400g, the winner of 13.5 class (where arguably less weight really does matter!) had a car that weighed 1490g!
My own car weigh's 1385g without any motor heatsink etc. but I do use TP lipo's.
GM motors have alot of cooling holes, I've always wondered about the effectiveness of motor heatsinks as the main sources of heat are inside the can. You are cooling the outside a lot but surely this must have a limited effect to the rotor and winding temp
Skiddins
My own car weigh's 1385g without any motor heatsink etc. but I do use TP lipo's.
GM motors have alot of cooling holes, I've always wondered about the effectiveness of motor heatsinks as the main sources of heat are inside the can. You are cooling the outside a lot but surely this must have a limited effect to the rotor and winding temp
Skiddins
#12
Nah, heatsinks are exactly that: things that sink heat. They work by increasing the surface area of the body that is heating up, so heat is more effectively dissipated. As long as you can't put one on the rotor, the outside of the motor is next best thing.
But I agree, 20grams overweight is nothing to lose sleep over. Remember, the lighter you go by going to aluminium turnbuckles, etc, the less durable the car is so the higher the risk you won't finish that race if you have a crash. And to finish first, blah, blah, you know the drill.
One thing I wouldn't do is replace steel turnbuckles with aluminium. Aluminium is not strong enough (I know!). If you really have to do it, go titanium (Lunsford make some top quality turnbuckles and I think they're ratehr cheap). They're light as aluminium and stronger than steel, so you double your gain. Truth is, any titanium item you buy, it's forever. I keep all the titanium bits when I change cars and over time I've built quite a collection. This would probably give you about 10 grams or less saved if you replaced all the turnbuckles on the car, so you'd still have a safety margin weight wise. But as I said before, I don't think you'll get any faster by losing 20 grams.
I run my car about 20 grams overweight and it's not slowing me down at all.
One more thign about aluminium screws. They have a bad habit of corroding in the bulkheads and it's not funny to pull them out. The tighter they are, the higher the risk that they're not coming out. Not to mention how easy it is to strip their heads. Use some weak threadlocker as a sealant to avoid any trace of water creeping in. Even better, avoid using them. I personally prefer to chuck them away and use either steel or titanium (without going overboard with the budget). I even replace aluminium pivot balls with brass or steel if I can for the same reason.
But I agree, 20grams overweight is nothing to lose sleep over. Remember, the lighter you go by going to aluminium turnbuckles, etc, the less durable the car is so the higher the risk you won't finish that race if you have a crash. And to finish first, blah, blah, you know the drill.
One thing I wouldn't do is replace steel turnbuckles with aluminium. Aluminium is not strong enough (I know!). If you really have to do it, go titanium (Lunsford make some top quality turnbuckles and I think they're ratehr cheap). They're light as aluminium and stronger than steel, so you double your gain. Truth is, any titanium item you buy, it's forever. I keep all the titanium bits when I change cars and over time I've built quite a collection. This would probably give you about 10 grams or less saved if you replaced all the turnbuckles on the car, so you'd still have a safety margin weight wise. But as I said before, I don't think you'll get any faster by losing 20 grams.
I run my car about 20 grams overweight and it's not slowing me down at all.
One more thign about aluminium screws. They have a bad habit of corroding in the bulkheads and it's not funny to pull them out. The tighter they are, the higher the risk that they're not coming out. Not to mention how easy it is to strip their heads. Use some weak threadlocker as a sealant to avoid any trace of water creeping in. Even better, avoid using them. I personally prefer to chuck them away and use either steel or titanium (without going overboard with the budget). I even replace aluminium pivot balls with brass or steel if I can for the same reason.
#15
OTH adding 100g to the car in the right places might make the car more stable, better balanced, give more traction and the guy would become unbeatable?