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Old 12-07-2009, 09:55 AM   #31
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I prefer the generic version

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Old 12-07-2009, 12:43 PM   #32
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From an economic standpoint I understand it. If everyone runs the same stuff then its fair for everyone. Butters brought up a good point though. We all know what Jack does (or doesnt do) to the carpet. Im not sure anyone knows the long term effects of SF on carpet yet.
At this point all the traction compounds are working strictly off their solvent properties, so in theory a compound with slightly less traction, should be better for the carpet. (solvent action is less powerful). We'll find out after Snowbirds, that race has more laps turned than most club tracks do in a season.

And at the new price, Gripper should be renamed "Jack the Reamer"
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At this point all the traction compounds are working strictly off their solvent properties, so in theory a compound with slightly less traction, should be better for the carpet. (solvent action is less powerful). We'll find out after Snowbirds, that race has more laps turned than most club tracks do in a season.

And at the new price, Gripper should be renamed "Jack the Reamer"
My thoughts exactly. After Snowbirds we should all have a better idea about this stuff.

How much are the cans of Jack now? I haven't bought one since last year.
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:52 PM   #34
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:54 PM   #35
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wheres that website
It is mostly sunscreen and babyoil.....you get it locally here in Medway.....

They also have a generic of the Epic stuff called "Stinky Finger" but it will cost you $30 in the back room
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De-scented 30W camel urine.

Hey! We are talking about tire traction not motor drops. LOL
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Both Jack and SF suck. I think we all need to go back to Paragon and get it over with. I for one never minded the smell of the Paragon.
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Trinity also has Red Dot. has anybody tried it on carpet?
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While we're on the subject of traction compound, what's the shelf life of Paragon and Jack?
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Both Jack and SF suck. I think we all need to go back to Paragon and get it over with. I for one never minded the smell of the Paragon.

Exactly! Paragon provides tons of traction, is readily available and reasonably priced. So it stinks a little bit... Jack don't smell all that great, don't grip all that great either, it's hard as hell to find and expensive when you do find it! What's to love about it???
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I agree bring back the paragon it doesn't smell near as bad as the diesel I use to put on my off-road tires. HAHA
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I agree bring back the paragon it doesn't smell near as bad as the diesel I use to put on my off-road tires. HAHA
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And at the new price, Gripper should be renamed "Jack the Reamer"
there was something said about people who live in glass houses...

or who at least have CRC in their signature
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I like Paragon myself but I could understand a track with a hobby shop not wanting to use it. While we are all use to the smell it is a big turn-off to the general public (and some racers). Plus it seems most major carpet races are moving away from Paragon so it isn't good practice for big races.
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