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Old 11-19-2009, 10:33 AM   #1
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Thinking of getting back into touring cars but i dont know which to go for want to get a second hand car to start off with to make sure that i do enjoy it as all i need is lipos and a motor still have a nosram istc charger etc.My options that i am looking at is a tc5r or a xray 009 but not too sure which one to have xray have a new car but dont know which one as i have not been away racing for years last car was a xray007
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If those are your choices, the Xray '008/'009 are a solid choice. Those two models aren't much different from each other. Parts aren't as cheap as TC5 parts, but then again they don't usually break as easily either. The plastic quality is much better on the Xray.

That said, any of the newer model high end cars (Xray, Corally, Schumacher, etc.) are worth picking up used. I'd get whatever the other local drivers are running so that you can get setup help easliy.
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Don't buy a t3

TC5, mi4lp & 416we are what i'd go for
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TC5, mi4lp & 416we are what i'd go for
Since the Schumacher MI4LP was just announced, I think he'll have a hard time finding a second hand one this quickly.
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Whats wrong with t3
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Ouch. Took the bait.

Nick, please let this one slide.
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Common advise you will get on these threads is to find out what types of cars are being run at the track/location you plan on racing at. Being able to share setup information and parts is important to many racers.

If you can let everyone know what class you are thinking about racing, that will also help everyone offer you good advice.
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Tamiya TA05 and the TA05v.II are affordable, capable and belt driven. If you are unsure about getting back in I wouldn't recommend spending alot of $$$ Both these cars are under 200.
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I wasn't sure either after returning to TCs in August 2009.
I loved my Factory TC4, but I thought I better start with belt cars.
I bought a used T2'008 roller for $250. In excellent shape. It was Carpet only.
I then bought a used TC5R roller with tons of parts and a 17.5 motor for $200.
The Xray was an OK deal and the TC5R was a steal.
I only drive the TC5R so far.
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XRAY T3 ,, TOP or TRF416X
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Tamiya TA05 and the TA05v.II are affordable, capable and belt driven. If you are unsure about getting back in I wouldn't recommend spending alot of $$$ Both these cars are under 200.
+1 on the TA05 v2. Frankly, I'm not skilled enough to tell what the hype is with the Xray T3s and the TC5s... Pound for pound, from my point of view, the TA05s (IFS, Version 2, and etc) are very capable of cars and in every bit as equivalent to these higher end cars.

I seriously don't understand what the hype is with carbon fiber. If using carbon fiber over plastic makes that much different, it's probably something else that's wrong with the setup...

Just my $0.02.

*psssssst* get the TA05 V2. They're awesome...
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out of those two i go xray 009, probably can find one on rctech for a good price. awesome car
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+1 on the TA05 v2. Frankly, I'm not skilled enough to tell what the hype is with the Xray T3s and the TC5s... Pound for pound, from my point of view, the TA05s (IFS, Version 2, and etc) are very capable of cars and in every bit as equivalent to these higher end cars.

I seriously don't understand what the hype is with carbon fiber. If using carbon fiber over plastic makes that much different, it's probably something else that's wrong with the setup...

Just my $0.02.

*psssssst* get the TA05 V2. They're awesome...

If that was the case the top competitions would feature a complete lineup of plastic cars.

Keep racing and when you run out of options to get quicker try a CF chassis car.
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Isn't the Yokomo guys racing the Bmax chassis instead of the their watchamacallit (for the life of me I can't remember their top of the line 4wd buggy)....

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Off road is different. And their other chassis is BMax too. The differences are minimal inasmuch as the chassis is concerned and both cars are tub chassis anyway, so I am not sure you've got the right comparison to the world of TC where the plastic tubs have double-plate CF alternatives.

But you did stumble across one of the reasons CF is used in TC cars, and that's the stiffness. In offroad I am not sure it is that necessary let alone for some critical tuning parts and perhaps the reliability of moulding the parts within tight tolerance every time. Plastic chassis in TC have a lot of problems with tweak sometimes from the factory (if they're pulled off the mold at the wrong time) and it's time consuming and sometimes futile to try and trace these problems down. It's really a complication nobody wants to have to deal with so it's easier to use CF.

Plastic is very good to keep prices down but for repeated maintenance it is a sure loser as threads inevitably strip, parts crack or break and so on.
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