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Old 02-25-2004, 08:27 PM   #31
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My question is....

Why pillow ball suspension with the roll centers WAY higher than they need to be (in the rear at least)?
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Old 02-25-2004, 08:30 PM   #32
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It would be OK if Trinity had a track record of making parts available for their cars. What happens to the newbie that breaks an arm on his first run and cant find the parts?
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Old 02-25-2004, 08:31 PM   #33
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"I'll just buy more batteries"..

If I could you'd all be buying my car/batteries/clothes/food.
was asked what I thought and said it.


AND! where can I buy your stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-25-2004, 08:43 PM   #34
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You won't have to spend thousands of dollars on Tamiya only hop-ups that still are not half as good as some of the other aftermarket stuff.
Uh !!....Have you read the TCS rules !!?? The object of Spec type racing whether it's Tamiya or Trinity is to provide a means of drawing new people in to the hobby and/or provide a less "intense" form of racing for existing racers. As for your comments about Tamiya parts.....I'll stack any of my cars up against anything else out there as far as quality is concerned. I've owned plenty of different cars and will say that each has it's own positives and negatives but I've rarely seen any of the major manufacturers supply a truly poor quality car. Bad performance is another story !! I'm not a big supporter of Trinity but I believe in the goals and intent of the Tamiya Challenge Series or any other Spec type program.
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Old 02-25-2004, 10:25 PM   #36
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Buy 10 spec packs, 10 spec motors and turbo 35 and turbo dyno em to find the best 3 and sell the rest.....thats what makes spec classes expensive. If you were to take and race a spec class for what it really is it's not expensive....it's close and fun racing for everyone.

We have had similar debates within our local club about spec rules being more expensive than a run what u brung class....it's only expensive if YOU make it that way....and too the rotten thing about those that do the buy buy buy thing to get the best spec motor and battery pack picks so they can gain a few tenths per lap is that it ruins the spec concept for us that want to keep it cheap.....



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"Hey look there's that Escalade driving Turbo 35 chargin Billy Bob Handcock leading the pack by a lap with his spec racer....How's he do it race fans ? I guess he really knows how to drive and tune Wally....well yea I guess you must be right Ralph. OH LOOK OUT !! he's all outa shape and bouncing off the boards in the infield again....no proplem though race fans he'll make it all up on the back straight and maintain his 300 point lead in the spec class points"
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instead of coming out with this hanus pitty of a car, why doesnt trinity try the electric reflex that everyone wanted when josh cyrul ran a prototype of it?
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Old 02-25-2004, 11:54 PM   #38
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I wasn't aware that anyone wanted that car, it looked like a POS to me. It was pretty creative and all, but that's about it.
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Old 02-26-2004, 01:20 AM   #39
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As long as they keep it cheap enough it would be a great thing. This sport needs more of an entry level priced class. Once they are in they will be hooked. Plus for us parents out there it could be a great way to see if our kids show interest without spending a fortune. I can assure you I am not a big trinity fan I would of much rather seen associated do something like this. But its a definate void our sport needs to fill.
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well.. a spec class is made to get more people into this hobby, i think that it is a good thing! Then there are always those who see the chance of win over these beginners, and starts spending alot of money on motors, batteries etc.. which is wrong, now let the spec class be a spec class and everything will be fine, i think that trinity actually has done something good here! (if the parts support works)
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i question the need for a car, any losi, or ae car in ready to run form is a spec....and and upgradeable spec at that.....

i like the 5 second class....or what ever, for sedan on a given track it could be 12 or 15 seconds...whatever....it would be a blast....oh man kevin k got a 11.9 too bad sucker.....justin....11.7....blazin...too bad it didnt count.....bad brad j......11.5 holy cow......and in the lead...mr.losi.....12.0......12.0.....12.1.......i like that.....you fast guys slowing down to my speed......
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Well, while I'm definitely in favor of bringing new blood into the hobby, I don't see how this will help. I too have witnessed Spec racers with stacks of "practice packs" and 3 good race packs, a tray full of spec motors, etc. What we're all failing to realize is that racing ANYTHING is an expensive endeavor. There will always be guys who'll spend more to gain that advantage, and I think money is a bigger factor in Spec racing than it is in the "full-blown classes". If you buy a junk spec motor, you can't cut the com, try a different set of brushes, etc. I applaud Trinity for attempting to bring "cost-controlled racing" back, but there will always be people who will ignore the "spirit" of the rules and by 20 packs and 10 motors to find the screamers. Sucks, but it's a part of the game we're in.
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Some of the most fun I've ever had in RC was back with the old Street Spec cars. We would run 250 lap enduro's with on the fly battery changes. Qualifying would be Indy 500 style, a 4 lap run. It was soooooo much fun. I wish we could get that going again, because at the new Trackside there's room in the infield for pitmen instead of in front of the driver's stand. I also love racing in the Tamiya series too. I dunno, this class has potential, I just hope it doesn't turn into another Procar series, you know, one year and done.
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The only thing that may be different here is you are talking about oval pan cars vs. 4wd sedans. We all know oval guys are insane with the motors and batteries. Granted, a good motor and a good stick will get you really far in on road, but I think road racing is less "equipment oriented" than oval. I know you have to have a free car and be able to drive, but it seems oval asks for everything you have in the driveline. Let's give this a chance (good god, I can't believe I'm saying that about Trinity)
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Agreed, I think that oval is more equipment weighted then on road, but with the Spec series we ran was always very close. I mean after 250 laps having 3 out of 8 cars on the lead lap and the next 2 team only a lap behind, it was awesome.

This series could be interesting. I want to see the chassis though along with the rules as well.
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