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Old 11-21-2010, 05:53 AM   #106
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anybody tried lowering the 5 pivot balls?

something they do in Europe on the V-Dezign CR4 to improve the handling
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:35 AM   #107
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I just got this car and im looking for some setups.
Im running it all stock except-
Ae blue side springs and Ae .18 Fronts.
Im running 17.5 no boost.
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Old 11-28-2010, 06:41 PM   #108
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I just got this car and im looking for some setups.
Im running it all stock except-
Ae blue side springs and Ae .18 Fronts.
Im running 17.5 no boost.
Here is what I typically run....

Front
Mag Tires 1.60
20 Springs
30,000 lube on kingpins
9 degree blocks
servo mounted flat
4.5mm under steering arm

Middle
black stiff shock spring
35wt oil
1.2 to 1.5 droop
Blue Side springs sometime gold

rear
Pink Tires 1.70
172mm width
make sure axle slide free through bearings.

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Old 11-28-2010, 09:11 PM   #109
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Here is what I typically run....

Front
Mag Tires 1.60
20 Springs
30,000 lube on kingpins
9 degree blocks
servo mounted flat
4.5mm under steering arm

Middle
black stiff shock spring
35wt oil
1.2 to 1.5 droop
Blue Side springs sometime gold

rear
Pink Tires 1.70
172mm width
make sure axle slide free through bearings.

Steve Dunn
How Are you mounting you servo flat?
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Old 11-29-2010, 08:05 AM   #110
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How Are you mounting you servo flat?
Using the On-Point Lipo Chassis is best option. My primary car is set-up this way along with most of the settings Mr. Dunn posted. However it is possible to mount the servo flat with the stock chassis. On by mod car I have the original chassis using Associated B-4 mounts and spacers to move the servo forward, just clearing the lower A-arm, works great.

By the way, the Serpent S-120 along with On-Point upgrades performed flawlessly at the US Indoor Champs this weekend. In the talent filled 1/12 Masters class Serpent was 1 of only 2 manufactures to make the A Main. I have driven a lot of 1/12's in the last 25 years and none have ever been as calm and predictable and as able to turn such fast laps.
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Old 11-29-2010, 03:56 PM   #111
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Hi All

I got some time this weekend to update http://markpayneblog.blogspot.com/
with info on the On Point Racing parts for the Serpent S120L.

Hope it's of interest.

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Thank you to everyone who ran Serpent and On-Point prododucts at the Champs!

Here is my setup that I ended up with. I wish I would have switched to it earlier, but dosen't that always seem to be the case, Too little too late! LOL.
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I would like to modify my s120L by laying down the steering sevro instead of stock version. So does any one here can tell me that which servo stands(for lay down position)would fit into the s120L main carbon plate? As far as I know, Xray Xii has one , but is it fit to serpent? Thanks


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hi Everyone,

I would like to modify my s120L by laying down the steering sevro instead of stock version. So does any one here can tell me that which servo stands(for lay down position)would fit into the s120L main carbon plate? As far as I know, Xray Xii has one , but is it fit to serpent? Thanks


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I am not sure about the stock chassis but the on point chassis which seems to be the chassis to have is drilled for the laydown servo. Some servo's have extra mounting tabs on them when new and I believe you can use them. I am sure someone can correct me if i'm wrong or give more detail to you.

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Alfred,

I am not sure about the stock chassis but the on point chassis which seems to be the chassis to have is drilled for the laydown servo. Some servo's have extra mounting tabs on them when new and I believe you can use them. I am sure someone can correct me if i'm wrong or give more detail to you.

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Correct.

Get a futaba 9650 or bls651 and use the tabs on the bottom of the server and you wont need any swervo mounts.

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hi Everyone,

I would like to modify my s120L by laying down the steering sevro instead of stock version. So does any one here can tell me that which servo stands(for lay down position)would fit into the s120L main carbon plate? As far as I know, Xray Xii has one , but is it fit to serpent? Thanks


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For the stock chassis the holes are not in the correct position for the laydown servo. If you need some measurements to redrill the chassis email me, [email protected]
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Thank you to everyone who ran Serpent and On-Point prododucts at the Champs!

Here is my setup that I ended up with. I wish I would have switched to it earlier, but dosen't that always seem to be the case, Too little too late! LOL.
Why swap the caster blocks side to side? And what is the part number for the 10# center spring. How much did you shave off the steering blocks, I can't make it out on the sheet. Thanks in advance.
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Why swap the caster blocks side to side? And what is the part number for the 10# center spring. How much did you shave off the steering blocks, I can't make it out on the sheet. Thanks in advance.
Swapping the blocks provides a slightly shorter upper arm length. The steering block has 0.8 MM shaved off bottom. Center spring is 41175
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there seems to be 2 sets of 1/12 springs.

the front springs, 411053,054,055 which are rated by wire diameter 0.45, 0.50, 0.55 and 411218,219,220 which seem to be rated by stiffness, 18, 22, and 26 ? the setup sheets show both designations.
are they equivalent or has anyone compared them? or should i just use associated which seem to be readily available?

The setups show 10lbs but 411214, 215, 216, 217 are rated at 12 14 16 and 18 lbs? the center springs, 411174, 175 are suggested in the notes.
it looks like 411215 is the kit spring. and 174 175 springs are both softer? do i just get the 174 and 175 parts or is anyone using the newer stiffer ratings? it seems like softer is the trend these days on carpet?
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