Why does everybody dislike Corally?
02-23-2004, 05:18 AM
#16
Hi friends. geetings from Malta.
STLNST. I am a great Corally fan and will explain why. I can't think of one bad thing about them, or their products, but I would love you to PM me the reasons you say people dislike them. Is there something I don't know?
Now why have I used Corally motors and cells exclusively in the last 5 years. Very simple. When we went to the on road Worlds in 1998, my son was an insignificant 15 year old, well out of his depth.
Corally were there with prototype versions of their new C4 touring car. They were very busy since they were also involved in the 1/12th and 1/10th pan car Worlds. Yet as soon as Mr. Constant Paul - the boss at Corally in Holland, noticed that we were using Corally motors he immediately offered us assistance. He introduced us to his motor guru Pete Gormanns (I think that was his name) and Pete just prpeared son Josh's motors throughout the event. We never bought a brush, motor, anything all week.They just couldn't do enough for us.
Now I had absolutely no contact with Corally until then except for the fact that we happened to be using their motors. Constant and I got talking and we agreed that I would start marketing their products in Malta. I also market many other top line brands of motors and cells but because Corally were so good to us when we were simple insignificants, I have always respected them for that and have used their products on our cars ever since.
Since then my son Josh has won 4 National touring car championships using Corally's excellent motors and cells.
Perhaps I am of the old school but I believe in principles, and when someone helps us, out of the kindness of his heart, I will do my best to reciprocate.
Pity there aren't more people around like Constant Paul of Corally. Our Rc hobby would be alot better for it.
Regards
Joe from sunny Malta.
STLNST. I am a great Corally fan and will explain why. I can't think of one bad thing about them, or their products, but I would love you to PM me the reasons you say people dislike them. Is there something I don't know?
Now why have I used Corally motors and cells exclusively in the last 5 years. Very simple. When we went to the on road Worlds in 1998, my son was an insignificant 15 year old, well out of his depth.
Corally were there with prototype versions of their new C4 touring car. They were very busy since they were also involved in the 1/12th and 1/10th pan car Worlds. Yet as soon as Mr. Constant Paul - the boss at Corally in Holland, noticed that we were using Corally motors he immediately offered us assistance. He introduced us to his motor guru Pete Gormanns (I think that was his name) and Pete just prpeared son Josh's motors throughout the event. We never bought a brush, motor, anything all week.They just couldn't do enough for us.
Now I had absolutely no contact with Corally until then except for the fact that we happened to be using their motors. Constant and I got talking and we agreed that I would start marketing their products in Malta. I also market many other top line brands of motors and cells but because Corally were so good to us when we were simple insignificants, I have always respected them for that and have used their products on our cars ever since.
Since then my son Josh has won 4 National touring car championships using Corally's excellent motors and cells.
Perhaps I am of the old school but I believe in principles, and when someone helps us, out of the kindness of his heart, I will do my best to reciprocate.
Pity there aren't more people around like Constant Paul of Corally. Our Rc hobby would be alot better for it.
Regards
Joe from sunny Malta.
02-23-2004, 06:07 AM
#17
Thats a good story.....should be hearing more stories like it.
Makes this hobby so much better......
Makes this hobby so much better......
02-23-2004, 07:57 AM
#19
johnbull- without me going into details corally usa isn't what I would call up to par with promoting their own line. Not to mention their car is the most expensive car out that doesn't work right out of the box. $400 and you still have to put money into the car.....come on get real. From what I've seen over the years from the car side I would even think of picking up one of their motors or batteries. I'm glad that you have had good luck with them in your neck of the woods but out this way I've watched a few racers give them a try only to switch back to their old cars because of lack of support as a team member...not from the LHS. I'm not trying to bash the company that's why I'm leaving out specific details because again....the net isn't a place to air dirty laundry.
02-23-2004, 08:45 AM
#20
Tech Adept
I have been racing a 12m. Here are some of the problems I am having.
1. No support. Try and find instructions or an exploded view--they just don't exist. I have such a hard time finding any information to help me. I bought my car used, so I don't know if everything is on there right or not.
2. Finding parts. I have only found Stormer Hobbies (too high shipping, and don't carry everything), and Corally USA direct (full retail). I just want a few parts here and there, but it cost too much to get them. It is only worth an order if you buy a bunch of stuff. I asked the track if they could get parts--they didn't think so. If they can, it sure isn't very widely known.
3. So mouch is proprietary. I can't just go grab some tires off the wall. Even to true them I would need a special arbor which I don't have. I just have to run them until they are gone.
I like the car--I actually like it a lot--but this stuff is making me frustracted enough to want to sell it off.
1. No support. Try and find instructions or an exploded view--they just don't exist. I have such a hard time finding any information to help me. I bought my car used, so I don't know if everything is on there right or not.
2. Finding parts. I have only found Stormer Hobbies (too high shipping, and don't carry everything), and Corally USA direct (full retail). I just want a few parts here and there, but it cost too much to get them. It is only worth an order if you buy a bunch of stuff. I asked the track if they could get parts--they didn't think so. If they can, it sure isn't very widely known.
3. So mouch is proprietary. I can't just go grab some tires off the wall. Even to true them I would need a special arbor which I don't have. I just have to run them until they are gone.
I like the car--I actually like it a lot--but this stuff is making me frustracted enough to want to sell it off.
02-23-2004, 09:15 AM
#21
24601-thats the price of exclusivity!!
I dont think having to buy an arbor that fits on a Hudy or OFNA truer is that big of a deal. Heck _I have over a $120 in Hudy arbors right now (1/10th, Sedan, 12th scale, 1/8th) as these are all cars I have driven over the last few years.
The Assasins not the car for everybody-but its the right car for some. But if you buiy it-you sould know what your getting yourself into. If youve seeno one-then you know how awesome they are to look at. Tits!!
The 12th scales-well Michael bruce has been flying!! Hes slow as dirt getting to the drivers stand on time-but hes fast on the track!! hahaha!!
I dont think having to buy an arbor that fits on a Hudy or OFNA truer is that big of a deal. Heck _I have over a $120 in Hudy arbors right now (1/10th, Sedan, 12th scale, 1/8th) as these are all cars I have driven over the last few years.
The Assasins not the car for everybody-but its the right car for some. But if you buiy it-you sould know what your getting yourself into. If youve seeno one-then you know how awesome they are to look at. Tits!!
The 12th scales-well Michael bruce has been flying!! Hes slow as dirt getting to the drivers stand on time-but hes fast on the track!! hahaha!!
02-23-2004, 10:01 AM
#22
Tech Adept
Exclusivity is worthless if you just plain can't run your car without parts. I didn't buy the car to be exclusive, I didn't know there was some club I was joining. I bought it to run.
Not to mention that these problems aren't very obvious until you own the car. I was all excited getting it until I tried to get some parts. No one told me it would be such a hassle.
Not many people own truers. Most people borrow or pay to have it done, and most don't have the Corally arbor. I can't afford a truer--probably never will be able to. I guess I will have to buy the arbor and keep it with me if I ever get to needing to true. Fact is most guys at the track are just running them util they are gone anyway.
The sp12m I heard is even being sold in RTR form. Does your typical RTR guy want to deal with these issues? Will he even know where to go for help?
Not to mention that these problems aren't very obvious until you own the car. I was all excited getting it until I tried to get some parts. No one told me it would be such a hassle.
Not many people own truers. Most people borrow or pay to have it done, and most don't have the Corally arbor. I can't afford a truer--probably never will be able to. I guess I will have to buy the arbor and keep it with me if I ever get to needing to true. Fact is most guys at the track are just running them util they are gone anyway.
The sp12m I heard is even being sold in RTR form. Does your typical RTR guy want to deal with these issues? Will he even know where to go for help?
02-23-2004, 10:32 AM
#23
24601-I didnt post to get you all upset-but call this a lesson learned. And yes-I do agree-if you know someone nice enough to let you borrow his/her truer-than by all means-buy an arbor. Put a Wanted: Corally Arbor in the want adds here and in every BBs you can find. You might find one for Cheap!!! Also-put want adds for another car just like yours as a parts car.
And though you are making ti sound like you disagree w/ me on exclusivity-you actually are in agreement w/ me. Part of exclusivity is not having parts readily available. Like owning an INdian motorcycle or an old MG TD, or a Jaguar XK120.......
And though you are making ti sound like you disagree w/ me on exclusivity-you actually are in agreement w/ me. Part of exclusivity is not having parts readily available. Like owning an INdian motorcycle or an old MG TD, or a Jaguar XK120.......
02-23-2004, 10:38 AM
#24
Tech Regular
Typically the reason why you don't see many people in the US racing Corally cars is for a fact mentioned again and again. Parts support.
You mentioned you lived near one of the US distibutors for Corally, so you probably don't see that problem. Many local hobbyshops where I live do not stock corally parts (you can always order them). But If you like to race and not sit there after something breaks because you have to wait at least a week for your part to come in, it can be really frustrating.
I don't know how they have their distribution priorities set up as far as who they do and don't allow to carry in stock parts. It may just be all the lack of parts bad press may have hurt them in the US, so hobby shops aren't as willing to take the chance.
In the UK things are different, so I have heard. Parts availibility isn't near the issue as it is in the states. As far as the cars go, they are great and very competitive.
You mentioned you lived near one of the US distibutors for Corally, so you probably don't see that problem. Many local hobbyshops where I live do not stock corally parts (you can always order them). But If you like to race and not sit there after something breaks because you have to wait at least a week for your part to come in, it can be really frustrating.
I don't know how they have their distribution priorities set up as far as who they do and don't allow to carry in stock parts. It may just be all the lack of parts bad press may have hurt them in the US, so hobby shops aren't as willing to take the chance.
In the UK things are different, so I have heard. Parts availibility isn't near the issue as it is in the states. As far as the cars go, they are great and very competitive.
02-23-2004, 11:36 AM
#25
moan and groan- I've beening running there cars since Superior Hobbies (Corally USA) has had them imported. I've run there batteries also. I've always stocked my own parts so if I needed a part I would have it.The old C4 and 4.1 I had parts I never used because they did not break. Buying someone used car is always risky.My 12m is now the newer version with the shocks and damper tubes.I also won the ROAR 1/12th Masters class with the same car back in June 2003.The Corally guys have gone out of their way to help me if i needed it - and I do.The $400.00 Assassin will win right out of the box. I can tell you'll not break as many parts as some of those other brands.As for hop ups 99% of them are in the kits. Again it does not take a bunch of money to stock your own personnel parts supply. Any hobby shop that says they can't get the parts are not really trying. If they won't get the parts call Corally USA yourself. Now the Corally directions do need some attention. The cars are excellent, different and they work.If I wanted to be like everyone else I'd get what everyone else has- I don't. I'll beat them with my Corally.
As for a tire truer , if your running foam tires you need one.I'm sure someone at the track you race at has one you could use. Find out what brand and order the arbor for it.
As for a tire truer , if your running foam tires you need one.I'm sure someone at the track you race at has one you could use. Find out what brand and order the arbor for it.
02-23-2004, 12:27 PM
#26
In Europe, Corally is quite big! And I must say, Corally always advertises with a message to serious racers. They have never wanted to be the company you first look at as a beginner... It's not a beginners car, it's a winning car for an experienced racer...
About Batteries and motors, I think Corally is the most honest company out there... For an example, Orion always hype up their equipment, but it's usually not specially better than anything else out there... Corally always delivers great motors and batteries, and they always have numbers just as good as the team drivers...
So in my opinion, I think Corally Usa is your biggest problem..
About Batteries and motors, I think Corally is the most honest company out there... For an example, Orion always hype up their equipment, but it's usually not specially better than anything else out there... Corally always delivers great motors and batteries, and they always have numbers just as good as the team drivers...
So in my opinion, I think Corally Usa is your biggest problem..
02-23-2004, 12:51 PM
#27
Originally posted by MartinSorlie
In Europe, Corally is quite big! And I must say, Corally always advertises with a message to serious racers. They have never wanted to be the company you first look at as a beginner... It's not a beginners car, it's a winning car for an experienced racer...
About Batteries and motors, I think Corally is the most honest company out there... For an example, Orion always hype up their equipment, but it's usually not specially better than anything else out there... Corally always delivers great motors and batteries, and they always have numbers just as good as the team drivers...
So in my opinion, I think Corally Usa is your biggest problem..
In Europe, Corally is quite big! And I must say, Corally always advertises with a message to serious racers. They have never wanted to be the company you first look at as a beginner... It's not a beginners car, it's a winning car for an experienced racer...
About Batteries and motors, I think Corally is the most honest company out there... For an example, Orion always hype up their equipment, but it's usually not specially better than anything else out there... Corally always delivers great motors and batteries, and they always have numbers just as good as the team drivers...
So in my opinion, I think Corally Usa is your biggest problem..
One of my "local" tracks has NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER getting parts, he has kits, and a full compliment of parts on the wall. One other thing I've noticed about Corally is how amazingly inexpensive their tires are.
The shop that carries them sells their exotic compound mounted 12th scale tires for $10 a pair. That's almost enough to make me think about trying to fit their wheels on my Rev.3!!!
02-23-2004, 01:00 PM
#28
That's good to hear. I just answered this, because it's sounds from most people's complaints that Corally Usa was the problem, not the Corally company...
02-23-2004, 01:14 PM
#29
I have to say Rob and Co. at Superior have always been helpfull, and never had a problem getting parts. My first 12th scale was a 12m, and when I bought a Yokomo, I was in for a rude awakening on tire pricing, the Corally Rubber is plain inexpensive. Whenever I have a problem with the car, thier guys from CorallyUSA have always helped me out.
02-23-2004, 01:17 PM
#30
Yea, Rob is a Real cool guy. Very nice and never had a problem with him. Corally IMO isn't bad. Especially living 30 min away from superiorhobbies
