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Old 11-09-2004, 02:08 PM   #9976
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Old 11-09-2004, 02:32 PM   #9977
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Default tc3 springs

The tc3 springs will work on the Xray. And they are different. The tc3 springs seem to be more linear and the xray springs seem to be more progressive. so, for the same lbs spring, there shold be a difference in feel/handling.
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:20 PM   #9978
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Thank you all for your reply on my spring questions.
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Old 11-09-2004, 07:52 PM   #9979
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Xray offers two different optional front shock towers.. There is a factory shock tower(302096) and the carpet tower(302095).
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Old 11-09-2004, 11:05 PM   #9980
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Bearings

did you guys clean your bearings in any way shape or form before building the kit to make them smoother?

do you need to do anything to the bearings?
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Old 11-09-2004, 11:15 PM   #9981
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Nope, they alreayd have a light lube in them. The seals and belts will free up with a few runs and the drivetrain will be stupid butter smooth lol.

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Old 11-09-2004, 11:39 PM   #9982
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Nope, they alreayd have a light lube in them. The seals and belts will free up with a few runs and the drivetrain will be stupid butter smooth lol.

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Old 11-10-2004, 03:30 AM   #9983
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Hi everybody!

I have been testing the FK for a while now and initially I had problems with the car being too unstable. I have made a few adjustments to the setup and now it is very stable but it scrubs of to much speed going through the turns.

So where do I start to free up the car in the turns without making it too unstable?

I have attached my setup here:
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Old 11-10-2004, 06:11 AM   #9984
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:34 AM   #9985
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OleC- I looked at your setup, and noticed right away that you run carpet with rubber tires. That is not my specialty! LOL Now if you were using foams, different story. Im sure someone else on herr can shoot you in the right direction. But you did say that it is scrubing too much speed right? Why dont you try shortening the rear camber link.
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olec-you could try some different tires, maybe like take offs 27's or 22's
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So where do I start to free up the car in the turns without making it too unstable?
Try the following change all at once,

Anti squat rear at #6 (just to absorb some bumps better)
Front Camber Link #2 (make the lenght identical with rear so you get better balance in suspension geometery for both on and off throttle.. no surprise feeling).
Set Camber all same for equal tire wear (1.5 is a start)
Medium tight diff (75% locked)

If you play on permanent track (and technicall as mentioned), start with the following damping
55W (trinity/asso) all around
3 holes fixed piston all around, if using adjustable, start with 60W
Yellow springs in rear, for front 2 step higher (I believe is blue-green) which should give you about the same damping hardness between F/R.

Last one, but the most important to free up the car in the turns, make all upper camber link as parallel as possible (by adding shims on top of hubs) to its lower arms. This will gives positive value for camber as your body rolls which should give you flying on the air feeling when turning (because loosing traction). If too twichy, either use less dual rate or install F and R stabilizer or just use shorter upper camber link (to get quicker reaction/speed of angle changed) and slightly angled down inside (so that camber not change much while rolling).

Those are just my opinions...
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:47 AM   #9988
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I just realize that you did run on carpet.. try much harder dampening combination to start with.
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Old 11-10-2004, 07:54 AM   #9989
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Thanks for the input Corey and Nick.

I have used this setup with several different tires but the result is the same. Different tires just gives different overal grip with this setup.

It's difficult to explain but I'm looking for adjustments that would make the car "roll" easier thorugh the corners.

If I blip the throttle from a standstill it will roll forever going straight forward. But when I enter a corner at high speed it's like hitting the brakes on all four corners.
I'm not looking to drastically remove the (for me comfortable) understeer I have. It is more a question of gradually going towards a more "loose" setup as I get more comfortable with the car and develop a throtle finger more suited for modified motors (I'm more used to 27T and 19T...)

I will try a softer roll bar in the front and I'll also try shortening the camber links in the rear.
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Old 11-10-2004, 08:02 AM   #9990
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Wow Pyramid!

Thanks for your input.

The damping you suggest seems awfully high. I've seen that on setups for foam on carpet but do you think it is suitable for rubber on carpet?

It is the rear diff you suggest tightening with this setup? (I use a front one way)

I use a 2mm front anti roll bar in my current setup. Do you suggest removing it with the setup changes you propose?
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