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Old 12-29-2003, 06:28 PM   #5551
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I say T1r with solid Carbon top deck and Front Carpet tower, Cheap, and fast!
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Old 12-29-2003, 06:33 PM   #5552
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so ur saying my evo isnt good? .. hah i havent gotten that carpet shocktower. does it make a diff?
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Old 12-29-2003, 11:03 PM   #5553
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I was told that the T1R's chassis is stiffer(with the graphite top brace) than the evo's is,what I have seen is most racers use the T1R's chassis and put the graphite brace and towers on it.
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Old 12-30-2003, 06:05 AM   #5554
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I just switched from the T1R to the EVO2. Put the exact same setup on the new one. Car feels exactly the same to me. The difference in the chassis for your average stock racer is not that huge.

One thing I did like about the T1R that I didn't realize I liked till I got the EVO2 was the battery mounting. In the EVO2, the battery posts are so close together it's a pain to get the batteries in and out. The T1R was MUCH easier. Not a huge deal but different.

Anyone with an EVO2 that wants to try the T1R chassis give me a shout. I've got one sitting here with a spare set of bulkheads I'm not using.
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Old 12-30-2003, 06:26 AM   #5555
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Best carpet X-Ray by Far is a C-hub equipped T1 chassis, though Ray Huang now has an excellent chassis conversion set-up by the Warpspeed guys for sale. It's even stiffer than a T1 chassis.
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What's up Ian? You coming down to Ultra's New Years Race?
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Old 12-30-2003, 07:07 AM   #5557
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I'm gonna try. I'll probably just run 12th scale. The little car's so much fun to drive.
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Old 12-30-2003, 09:39 PM   #5558
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OMG we were demoted to the SECOND PAGE!!!! but, I fixed that
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Old 12-31-2003, 09:20 AM   #5559
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I was talking with a racer at the track this weekend after I had broken a plastic shock body. He said that the aluminum shock bodies aren't as smooth as the plastic ones. That the pistons actually bind up more in the aluminum bodies.

Has anyone experienced this problem?
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Old 12-31-2003, 09:35 AM   #5560
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Yes, But when you get the aluminum shock bodies, u take the bottom cap off and file down the piston untill it's able to drop to the bottom of the shock body only by using gravity. After I did that, i haven't had a problem yet.

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Hey guys, I am also new to EP onroad and am considering the Evo2.
Can someone tell me the difference between EVO2 and T1R besides the chassis stiffness?
Also, can someone tell me the pros and cons of belt drive cars vs shaft drive cars? I ask this because I am not really set on Xray yet, as I am still looking at the Yok, Tamiya and Losi...
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Old 01-01-2004, 01:15 PM   #5562
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To wHat i understand.. The Evo2 is A Stiffer Chassis And Top deck thats it. Also If you Buy Foc You get The choice of two setups C Hubs, Or Pivot. For Belt Vs shaft I Dont know much just know shaft Is more torque i believe Dont Quote me on that also shaft gives you torque steering to the most part.
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shaft will get you out of the corners a little faster. The belt will take a little bit longer to get out of the corners.

As far as evo2 and t1r, Most guys like the t1r chassis with the evo2 stiff upper deck. This combination is the most stiff, unless you can find a t1 chassis. Also, most of the fast guys are using most of the evo2 stuff on and just changing out the chassis to the t1r. The evo 2 shock towers have more tunability. They are also liking the t1r front anti roll bars better then the blade style.

So as far as Xray, if you want to do these upgrade, then get the evo2 and then get the t1r chassis, battery brace, and front uppper bumper mounts. But the t1r is a good car as is. You just loose some of the tunability that the evo2 gives you. You can try going the other way, but I think it is more expensive to get the same car starting with the t1r kit.
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Old 01-01-2004, 02:27 PM   #5564
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Yea I just got my Evo2 Its Not fully Built yet But 2 days ago i abught the tir chassis. Just for switch See Which i like better, And later Buyign the stiffer Top Deck, And Front carpet tower
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Old 01-01-2004, 02:39 PM   #5565
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The arguement between shaft and belt is seemingly endless. The basic theory is that shaft drives are faster because they have less drag. When the TC3 originally shipped (years ago), this was definitely true because the TC3 was being compared to the triple belt driven Street Weapon. The belt drive cars today have a lot less drag than those old school Street Weapon cars. For example, the XRay with two very effeciently designed belts has far less drag than the old Street Weapons.

With the low ratio pulleys and the narrow rear belt, the XRay is just as punchy as any shaft drive car I have seen. Obviously there is nothing wrong with XRay's drivetrain, since an XRay won stock class at the most recent Cleveland race.

The other issue is balance. It is a lot harder to properly balance a shaft drive car from left to right than it is to balance out a belt car. It is braindead simple to get the XRay balanced. On the TC3, you may need to dremel the battery slots and slide the cells to get the car balanced. And even after you balance the TC3, the amount of torque steer that the car has will upset the balance. The XRay suffers no torque steer issues, so balance is consistent.

After racing with both shaft and belt cars, I can honestly say without a doubt that shaft drives are not an advantage at all. Belt drives are just as fast, and belt drives do not suffer from torque steer. I drove a FTTC3 before I switched to XRay, and I have been faster and more consistent with the XRay.
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