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Old 11-27-2003, 11:55 AM   #5251
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Yeah I think it will be too. Sands, are you coming to Vinton next weekend?
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When will we be able to get the short arms? Are they in production yet? Or will we only be able to get them when the T1M comes into production? My track has a ton of traction and having the short arms on the x-rays would really help with chassis roll.
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Old 11-27-2003, 01:01 PM   #5253
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I would venture to say that after Cleveland that these arms will be available along with all these new modifications and cars are tried and trued. Just my .02 cents.
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Old 11-27-2003, 02:12 PM   #5254
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the shorter arms will change the roll center. Makes the car roll less into and out of a corner so you can run softer springs. gives you higher corner speeds.

This is on my xmas list.
Actually, with shorter arms, the car will roll more about it's roll center. The pivot points of the arms are at a different location. The new pivot positions will change how the car rolls in and out of corners. The car's roll axis will also change with the new arms.
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Old 11-27-2003, 03:13 PM   #5255
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Yeah I think it will be too. Sands, are you coming to Vinton next weekend?
No, I'll be on vacation. I will be in albion on the 20th. Finally got my setup figured out. Added 4 laps to my personal best and finished second the A last weekend. Bested Shiloh by a lap - he did have a bad race day though. Mike C was in second and broke about halfway through, I was about 1/3 lap behind him.
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Old 11-27-2003, 03:16 PM   #5256
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Actually, with shorter arms, the car will roll more about it's roll center. The pivot points of the arms are at a different location. The new pivot positions will change how the car rolls in and out of corners. The car's roll axis will also change with the new arms.
correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a shorter arm will reduce the amount of change in the roll center as the car rolls. So the car will roll less far in total. But the shorter arms will make the car react faster initially. So it will will settle faster in the corner, but not roll as far mid corner.

This is same overall effect as running shorter and more angled upper links, but more pronounced then the stock setup allows.
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Old 11-27-2003, 04:46 PM   #5257
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Just want to ask if using the short arms, does it need to change the dogbones as well?
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Old 11-28-2003, 12:13 AM   #5258
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No need to change the dog bones with the short arms. All you have to replace are the arms. So the only difference between the long and short arms are where they mount. But everything else like the bulkheads, shock towers, dogbones, turnbuckles, ect, stay the same.
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Old 11-28-2003, 08:13 AM   #5259
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What about the front bulkhead Josh is using? The camber link is mounted directly onto the blukhead instead of the shocktower. Is that going to be an available option?

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I don't think so. It's pretty easy to drill and tap into the aluminum bulkheads yourself.
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Old 11-29-2003, 05:23 PM   #5261
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I don't think so. It's pretty easy to drill and tap into the aluminum bulkheads yourself.
The bulkhead is actually totally different to the normal ones, at least Andy Moores one is............. Rick

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Old 11-29-2003, 05:34 PM   #5262
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Any suggestion on what the gear ration should be around for the following condition: 27 turn stock motor, 10 min race, 3300 battery, carpet track, running on foam. Thanks!
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Any suggestion on what the gear ration should be around for the following condition: 27 turn stock motor, 10 min race, 3300 battery, carpet track, running on foam. Thanks!
Just guessing here, but probably about a .8-.9 inch rollout. You'll need to go easy on the throttle or you'll cook your motor too.

May need to run low silver brushes in it. Trinity 4500s rather than the 4499s or 4503s.

You may need to trim the brushes to get more efficiency out of them. A center hole will do the trick too.

I can probably go for 10 on my carpet knife, but that is with a much lighter car and smaller frontal area.
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Arms,hubs,and bulkhead from 1/12 scale touring
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Old 11-30-2003, 03:59 AM   #5265
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hi guys,i just got the t1R ..do we discuss the T1R here?
have some questions,
The gearing chart i got fromt the nice booklet seems incomplete.
Does it not accept standard spurs(kawada 64p 100-106T)?
what spurs does it accept?
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