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Old 08-18-2002, 09:43 AM   #1516
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Besercoe, Have you tried slowly tightening your rear diff a little at a time? A tighter rear diff will allow the rear end to break traction faster when exiting a corner, allowing the rear to drift more evenly with the front. Just try a little at a time, until you go to far, and then you will have a basis to adjust from.

I assume you are not using the C-hub style suspension?
I have watched this thread and it seems that you are the guy that pretty much has this car licked. I'm a die hard Losi guy but I'm thinking of trying the Xray out for a while. Would you recommend running the car with the stock parts first to learn the car or go right into the C-hub conversion? Isn't the c-hub's better suited for carpet racing? Thanks in advance for any help you may give me.
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Old 08-18-2002, 01:11 PM   #1517
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Hi guys

I have been having trouble getting mid to exit corner steering, i have tried a lot of different adjustments, and can get the car very sensitive to initial steering, and change of direction, but whatever i do i cant get the rear end to rotate toward the end of the corner.

We run on a tight concrete track with rubber tires. Any s
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This might sound funny and you might think this will never work but try it.
When I want more steering exiting a corner I will either stand the rear shocks up more or add a rear sway bar. Standing the shocks up allows the car to transfer weight faster. A rear sway bar allows you to steer under acceleration. Start with a thin one and see if its enought. I run this in my gas car. The more steering exiting the corner the bigger the bar. Dont be afraid of how ruff the track is.
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Old 08-18-2002, 01:15 PM   #1518
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STLNLST, I always recommend starting with a box stock car, and taking it from there. However there are occasions that I will recommend installing the C-hub conversion right from the start. To be able to give you a good basis for a recommendation, I would need to know what type of tracks you run on. Pictures or drawlings of the layout(s) would be even better.

If it is easier for you to discuse this by phone, please feel free to give me a call directly, as many other do. My contact info can be found on my site.
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Got my EVO2 Thursday, ran it today. Nice.....
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Old 08-18-2002, 05:18 PM   #1520
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STLNLST, I always recommend starting with a box stock car, and taking it from there. However there are occasions that I will recommend installing the C-hub conversion right from the start. To be able to give you a good basis for a recommendation, I would need to know what type of tracks you run on. Pictures or drawlings of the layout(s) would be even better.

If it is easier for you to discuse this by phone, please feel free to give me a call directly, as many other do. My contact info can be found on my site.
Thanks for the quick response. I will give you a call sometime next week.
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Hobbytown R. - Did you use the stiff upper deck or one of the more flexible versions?

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Old 08-19-2002, 08:33 AM   #1522
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David, I used the kit upper deck. I didn't get much time on the car as I was building the shocks at the race and never got to run a qualifier. Started the Bmain in 3rd or last place (only 13 stock sedans)and finished with a time that would have been 5th in the A. We had to run rubber tires and the car pushed bad. I think it was the tire choice. Didn't have the right stuff so I ran want I had.

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I just got and built my xray evo 2 today, i just have a few questions:

1)Building it per spec of the instructions, the car has 10 degrees of toe in on EACH wheel. I even tried the C hub suspenion and its the same if not slightly worse (more on that later though).

2)the layshaft seemed a little to snug, i think the spacer between the two pullies was too thick, but i didnt want to sand it down if i dont have too.

3)while trying to remove the ball cupon the steering hub to adjust toe, i somehow managed to take some of the steering hub with me (it broke right off). I have never seen (even with 8th scale buggies) ball cups that hold on that well! which is great for racing, just not wrenching. so i put on the C hub suspenion that i was planning to install later.

4)the front anti sway bar, it doesnt seem as if it works properly. It barely keeps the arms from moving (even if i move both), and i have it set at 45 degrees

5)finally, i could not get the shocks built properly, i tried to use diagonal cuts (and also wire cutter on my pliers) to hold the shock shaft thread, but it was crushing the threading! i have never seen shock shafts do this before.

any help would be great (espically with the toe in problem, since i have no clue what to do) thanks!
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If your talking about the front toe-in just run them in until you get the right amount of toe. Plus make sure the overall width is right. If there's not enough you can't get the proper toe. The stock T1 didn't use the dual ackerman saver which means the turnbuckles are longer. The EVO2 uses shorter turnbuckles. You'll have to run them in until theres no threads showing, and then some!!!
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okay, that could explain alot. I am just kinda worried about the turnbuckle poping through the ball cup, lol. since i have done it on other cars before.

and i think my width is fine, since i am using the C hub suspenion, and even before i checked with calipers using the stock one.
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okay, that could explain alot. I am just kinda worried about the turnbuckle poping through the ball cup, lol. since i have done it on other cars before.

and i think my width is fine, since i am using the C hub suspenion, and even before i checked with calipers using the stock one.
Xray ball cups are amazingly tough to get off....Last week I shattered a rear wheel bearing on the C-hubs and the turnbuckle did not pop out.

I find that when I build the turnbuckles I thread the rod all the way in to cut the thread in the plastic ball cup. After that you can easily adjust the turnbuckle in the car without having to remove it or fearing that it will pop off!
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and just checking, did the suggest lenth of the tie rods (61 and 63) also give you alot of toe in?
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Sorry, mine is a first generation Xray with a lot of options!
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