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Old 09-15-2010, 08:03 AM   #76
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The cars are back on the CEFX websight. Keep in mind that the kit is a conversion.

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I have been running the car all summer. Been running red cars for years. This car is sooooo much more consistant from the start of the run tell the end. Geomentry of the car, as well as the quality and thickness of the of the carbon fiber being used generates crazy corner speed.

It is the best kept secret in 1/12 scale racing. Not for long though...
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Still building my Griffin 12. Taking me a while as I've been busy finishing up with outdoors.

I put the HB center shock in last night and wondered if anyone did anything to limit the travel of the shock as the rear seems to sag when off the ground ? Or maybe I screwed something up ?
Here is a picture of the rear http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...ket_15862_.jpg

Also, does anyone have a part number for the AE Med ballstud used on the rear shock mount (instead of the supplied one) ?

Thanks again in advance

Can't wait to complete this build and get it on the track..
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Still building my Griffin 12. Taking me a while as I've been busy finishing up with outdoors.

I put the HB center shock in last night and wondered if anyone did anything to limit the travel of the shock as the rear seems to sag when off the ground ? Or maybe I screwed something up ?
Here is a picture of the rear http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/a...ket_15862_.jpg

Also, does anyone have a part number for the AE Med ballstud used on the rear shock mount (instead of the supplied one) ?

Thanks again in advance

Can't wait to complete this build and get it on the track..

Shock Length is 76mm to 79mm overall lenght cut the long plastic ball cup down. Try that with 40 weight shock oil & blue center spring. This is what Josh and I ran at the IIC race.

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Old 09-16-2010, 08:18 PM   #79
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Thanks for the info so far. Is there a reason the Servo Mount/Standoff is not included with the Griffin 12 Conv. kit ?

Was pretty surprised and the 12R5 ones don't work.

Have people been using these ? http://www.cefxspeedshop.net/?mainUR...2_On_Road.html

Thanks in advance.
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tobamiester - We didn't include them because some people may prefer different ways to mount their servo or use a different size servo and we were trying to keep the kit price to a minimum.

I think the center shock lenght we used at the IIC was around 76.5mm. I'll check my car tomorrow and post exactly where it was.

hussel7 - I ran a KO 951 servo, KO speedo, R5 front end, Hot Bodies center shock w/ AE Blue spring and Losi 40wt oil and AE Gold side springs.

I'll get some pics of my car up asap. Here's my basic set-up that was on my car, Kelly's car and Andy Moore's car.... Same set-up used to TQ and win the ROAR Nats, Snowbirds, Novak Race and now IIC:

AER5 front end:

5 degree blocks
thick castor shims in the front, thin in the rear
1 degree camber
.020 front springs
10k-15k on the kingpins (yellow 15k Kyosho)
3.5mm ride height
1.62-1.58 front tires Parma Magenta

HB center shock:

stock piston
40wt oil
AE blue spring
76-77mm overall lenght

AE gold side springs w/no pre-load
15k in side tubes - Kyosho yellow
1.72-1.68 rear tires Parma Magenta
4.0mm ride height

Protoform AMR-12 body centered or back a little in the wheel wells
Battery forward
Kimbrough Med servo saver
Speed Passion V3.0 3.5 Turn Motor
Speed Passion Super 7 Rotor
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tobamiester - We didn't include them because some people may prefer different ways to mount their servo or use a different size servo and we were trying to keep the kit price to a minimum.

I think the center shock lenght we used at the IIC was around 76.5mm. I'll check my car tomorrow and post exactly where it was.

hussel7 - I ran a KO 951 servo, KO speedo, R5 front end, Hot Bodies center shock w/ AE Blue spring and Losi 40wt oil and AE Gold side springs.

I'll get some pics of my car up asap. Here's my basic set-up that was on my car, Kelly's car and Andy Moore's car.... Same set-up used to TQ and win the ROAR Nats, Snowbirds, Novak Race and now IIC:

AER5 front end:

5 degree blocks
thick castor shims in the front, thin in the rear
1 degree camber
.020 front springs
10k-15k on the kingpins (yellow 15k Kyosho)
3.5mm ride height
1.62-1.58 front tires Parma Magenta

HB center shock:

stock piston
40wt oil
AE blue spring
76-77mm overall lenght

AE gold side springs w/no pre-load
15k in side tubes - Kyosho yellow
1.72-1.68 rear tires Parma Magenta
4.0mm ride height

Protoform AMR-12 body centered or back a little in the wheel wells
Battery forward
Kimbrough Med servo saver
Speed Passion V3.0 3.5 Turn Motor
Speed Passion Super 7 Rotor
23/96 with KO Speed Control
Josh, Thanks so much for the info.
-toby
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:29 PM   #82
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Figured I'd post a pic of my Griffin 12 if others need references as other pics people have posted were invaluable for my build.

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Figured I'd post a pic of my Griffin 12 if others need references as other pics people have posted were invaluable for my build.

Doesn't look like you have much room for adjustment on the shock collar, is that spring really short or is the shock really long. or is it just me lol the car looks really nice great job on the electronics. lets see it with the body now
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Does the antenna/frt shock mount moves? If so, it seems to me that it should be moved towards the rear pod to give yourself more shock collar adjustment for droop/sag. I know also with the HB shock, we cut about 1/8" off the shaft to shorten it a bit.
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Does the antenna/frt shock mount moves? If so, it seems to me that it should be moved towards the rear pod to give yourself more shock collar adjustment for droop/sag. I know also with the HB shock, we cut about 1/8" off the shaft to shorten it a bit.

Great feedback guys. I have the antenna/shock mount as far back as it goes (three holes I believe). I did cut the long ball cup down 5mm as Kelly suggested. But the outcome as "whynot" mentions is little adjustment left in the shock collar. Cutting the shaft does feel like a good solution.
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Great feedback guys. I have the antenna/shock mount as far back as it goes (three holes I believe). I did cut the long ball cup down 5mm as Kelly suggested. But the outcome as "whynot" mentions is little adjustment left in the shock collar. Cutting the shaft does feel like a good solution.
Is it possible to just use another shock shaft from another brand? is the a eclip groove on one end and threaded on the other? how would you make this shorter? how much rear pod droop do you have now?
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Is it possible to just use another shock shaft from another brand? is the a eclip groove on one end and threaded on the other? how would you make this shorter? how much rear pod droop do you have now?
Just dremel the shock shaft with a cutting wheel.
He might have to go back to the long ballcups though...
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Is it possible to just use another shock shaft from another brand? is the a eclip groove on one end and threaded on the other? how would you make this shorter? how much rear pod droop do you have now?
You can see the shaft here http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUNN1&P=Z
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oh ok I see am an idiot haha I just built basically the same shock with my copperhead 12 how much does this car weigh when it is race ready? with a receiver pack
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oh ok I see am an idiot haha I just built basically the same shock with my copperhead 12 how much does this car weigh when it is race ready? with a receiver pack
1lb 7.5oz without body and transponder. I'm using a booster rather than receiver pack as I'm too lazy to maintain a pack right now. maybe when the season gets going I'll put a LIFE pack in there.
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