R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-22-2009, 06:54 AM   #751
Tech Master
 
TRXRACER99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,094
Trader Rating: 10 (92%+)
Default

im with foxy on this one any car that take a hard enough hit like that will break.
TRXRACER99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 07:30 AM   #752
Tech Master
 
sportpak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ft Wayne, IN
Posts: 1,314
Trader Rating: 26 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IIGQ4U View Post
Finished my T3 and am headed out for a race. Hopefully it's as optimized as advertised.


Beautiful install. I'm thinking about trying one of those Orion servos. How has that one worked for you?
__________________
-Tamiya TA05-R - Tamiya M05 - Summit Raceway Ft. Wayne, IN

www.summitrcraceway.com
sportpak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 08:37 AM   #753
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 465
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

can anyone tell me if the chassis issue people are having has only happened to the EU kit? or has it happened to the US Foam kit as well?
__________________
Futaba 7PX---Xray T4 '18 ---R1 Wurks---EAMotorsports---Hobbywing
kobiwan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 08:40 AM   #754
Tech Elite
 
mjc168's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,808
Trader Rating: 25 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WooHoo View Post
Is it possible to use the front front mount in place of the front rear mounts?
Does it clear the belt?
Same at rear if necessary?

robert
erm....that is not possible...it should come out a bridge block something like tamiya did to pass through the front belt....
__________________
http://www.pprcc.com/

1/10 On-road Touring: Schumacher MI3 + Tekin RS Pro + Orca RX-1 11.5t BL Motor
1/10 On-road Touring: Xray T3 2011 + Tekin RS Pro + Tekin Redline 10.5t BL Motor
mjc168 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 08:40 AM   #755
Tech Elite
 
nitrobeast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Colonia, NJ
Posts: 2,340
Trader Rating: 41 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stacky150 View Post
First time with an Xray and it was awesome, so much more grip than my TC5R.
Unfortunately I broke the chassis 2nd lap in. The car was really twitchy on the straight and went right to much and went over the curb on to the steel barrier and there was a bolt stocking out of the ground and it stuffed my chassis. I was only quarter throttle and I drive Modified.
Heres Pic...
Sucks, but any car that hit like that might not make it. TC5 might have been in 2 pieces.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCknight View Post
Seems they are going to have to redesign the T3 and I don't understand why an experienced engineer would have not foreseen this problem. Many of us did. Dang it, I wanted a T3R Pro.
Did you read how it happen or only look at the pic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FOXY923 View Post
The above problem isn't the same as others have had. Or do you mean Xray should have foreseen somebody running into a steel barrier with a bolt sticking out of it? That is beyond any RC car...yes car, not tank. There will be crashes that any car would break under...Mod TC vs. Steel Barrier, my money is on steel barrier 90% of the time. I'm sure if Stacky didn't hop the curb the outcome would have been different.
The wheels must of taken a big hit and the suspension mounts section looks fine. Yesterday we had 2 T3 on the track and both didnt have any issues. One of them took a couple good hits, no problem
__________________
Rui Goncalves
Team CRC|Awesomatix USA|TQ Wire|
Jackson curbs, ready for lift off!
nitrobeast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 08:42 AM   #756
Tech Elite
 
mjc168's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,808
Trader Rating: 25 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kobiwan View Post
can anyone tell me if the chassis issue people are having has only happened to the EU kit? or has it happened to the US Foam kit as well?
my club mate was using EU spec....
__________________
http://www.pprcc.com/

1/10 On-road Touring: Schumacher MI3 + Tekin RS Pro + Orca RX-1 11.5t BL Motor
1/10 On-road Touring: Xray T3 2011 + Tekin RS Pro + Tekin Redline 10.5t BL Motor
mjc168 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 10:15 AM   #757
Tech Elite
 
IIGQ4U's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: La Jolla, CA SoCal
Posts: 2,489
Trader Rating: 53 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportpak View Post
Beautiful install. I'm thinking about trying one of those Orion servos. How has that one worked for you?
Thanks sportpak.

I have nothing but good things to say about the Orion servo. The Orion is faster, has better torque and is less expensive than all of the other low-profile servos I've seen. The servo is manufactured by Savox.
IIGQ4U is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 10:23 AM   #758
Tech Elite
 
Fred Hubbard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Inglewood, CA
Posts: 2,719
Trader Rating: 6 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FOXY923 View Post
The above problem isn't the same as others have had. Or do you mean Xray should have foreseen somebody running into a steel barrier with a bolt sticking out of it? That is beyond any RC car...yes car, not tank. There will be crashes that any car would break under...Mod TC vs. Steel Barrier, my money is on steel barrier 90% of the time. I'm sure if Stacky didn't hop the curb the outcome would have been different.
+1
Fred Hubbard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 12:57 PM   #759
Tech Elite
 
BigDogRacing's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 2,955
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to BigDogRacing
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by or8ital View Post
yeah its hard to tell. The photo of the bottom of the chassis looks like there is no damage. Is the screw just in there but screwed to nothing?
Usually in a case like this the carbon fiber gets delaminated and cracks, the reason the screw is hard to get out is that it's pinched between the laminations.

I'm sure everyone has seen the tip on gluing the countersunk hole. I can add to that you should use thin CA. Preferably a fresh bottle. The thin CA will penetrate deeper into to carbon fiber or "soak in" deeper if you will. I use a q-tip and squirt the CA onto the cotton and then stick it into the countersunk holes and give it a quick twist. You can do about 6-8 holes before it starts to setup. Don't try to do too many or you will leave cotton strands behind. Just do 6 or 8 then chunk it and start over. Also be careful not to get a lot of glue on the top side of the chassis or it will cause the mount to sit crooked. If you do get glue on the top side, wait a few minutes for the CA to set up, then while it's hardening but not quite cured you can take a FRESH razor blade (not Xacto blade) and lightly hold it at 30-45deg angle to the chassis and trim the excess glue right off without scratching the chassis. If you've never done this before skeet a little shot of windex or soapy water on the surface to help the blade glide along and not catch or gouge the surface.

Note on CA application for sealing chassis or any time using CA for an extended time- the colder the air is and the less the air is moving, the longer it takes for the CA to set up. That's why they advise storing CA in the freezer. If you aren't experienced at chassis sealing then the slower the glue sets up the easier it will be to catch mistakes. Again, fresh CA works much better and takes a hair longer to set up.
BigDogRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 01:52 PM   #760
Tech Elite
 
RCknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,273
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default Umm....yeah I got that. lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by FOXY923 View Post
The above problem isn't the same as others have had. Or do you mean Xray should have foreseen somebody running into a steel barrier with a bolt sticking out of it? That is beyond any RC car...yes car, not tank. There will be crashes that any car would break under...Mod TC vs. Steel Barrier, my money is on steel barrier 90% of the time. I'm sure if Stacky didn't hop the curb the outcome would have been different.

It was a joke, it's easy to get a rise out of people. I don't think it will be a simple fix. I hope they go back to something like HPI or AE TC4 blocks. I also like the design of the tierod links on the TC4. More adjustments. If it were up to me, I would redesign the car. There must be something to be said for the Hot bodies arms and toe blocks.

Last edited by RCknight; 11-22-2009 at 02:53 PM.
RCknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 01:56 PM   #761
Tech Addict
 
FOXY923's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Canada eh
Posts: 549
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCknight View Post
It was a joke, it's easy to get a rise out of people. I don't think it will be a simple fix. I hope they go back to something like HPI or AE TC4 blocks. I also like the design of the tierod links on the TC4. More adjustments. If it were up to me, I would design the car. There must be something to be said for the Hot bodies arms and toe blocks.
Don't go floating your boat you didn't raise me

Draw something up I'd like to see your car design.
__________________
Paris Junction Hobbies ~ RROL.ca ~ Lou's Speedway ~ SCAR
XRAY X10 Link ~ CVTA Sakura Zero S ~ XRAY X10 Custom Oval ~ Caster Fusion F18
RACE 4FUN
FOXY923 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 02:48 PM   #762
Tech Elite
 
RCknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,273
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default Well...lol I love several design features of the T3.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FOXY923 View Post
Don't go floating your boat you didn't raise me

Draw something up I'd like to see your car design.
There are some great features on Xray, but there is still room for improvement.

Xray diffs are great, adjustable and they have covers. I also like the ackerman adjustment, their cvds, upper deck and lipo ready. Very nice.

I like Avid's wheel hexes, Tamiya's/HPI Cyclone arms, JRX-S shocks and ball joints, the new Yokomo BD-5 looks real nice and has TC4 tie rod adjustments. In fact, I really like the Yokomo right now, but parts are hard to come by. I still have a single belt design in my head. lol Seems all the TCs have some nice design feature about them.
RCknight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 04:16 PM   #763
Tech Elite
 
Skiddins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Windsor, UK
Posts: 4,762
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny-b23 View Post
The Avid's wheel hexes are the best on the market right now IMO. I don't know why TC designers ever ventured away from these.
The few people I know that were running older Xray's with that sort of design were always having problems with wheels coming loose, or off completely.

Give me serated whell nuts anyday

Skiddins
__________________
Xray T4'18, T4'14 (Wet Car)
Xray X12 2018
Xray X1'16
wlrc.co.uk (West London Racing Centre)
RCDisco.co.uk
Skiddins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 06:19 PM   #764
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,561
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

I threw a beating on my T3 EU this weekend at http://www.rctech.net/forum/racing-f...009-a-119.html. I personally failed by not having sufficiently prepared (i.e. assembling the car still while at the track) but I made it out to the first round of qualifying. I as guessed on a setup and had some of the fastest drivers in the USA on the track (Cuffs, Shreff, Fairtrace and Herald Jr). I blew out -- banging corners and even ejecting myself off the track twice.

All in all the T3 survived .. and thrived. Armed with an XRay hard foam bumper and a additional kydex bumper underneath I couldn't break anything (I took this whole assembly right of my T2'009). C-hubs, steering blocks ... or the recently discussed suspension arm holders.

The car responded to both minor and major setup changes. I cannot wait to hit the track next saturday. I'll be prepared this time.

I really liked how well balanced the car is, not to mention light. I used the kit provided lipo holders, and the lipo flipped diff/belt layout. I placed 14 grams behind both the motor and battery (a total of 28 grams). I then added an additional 28 grams between my lipo and my speedo, under the belt to get the car up to weight (1420 grams).
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / MaxRotation FPV Drone Racing / [email protected] Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2009, 06:22 PM   #765
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,561
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nitrobeast View Post
One of them took a couple good hits, no problem
If anyone is wondering -- that was my car . Solid as a rock.
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / MaxRotation FPV Drone Racing / [email protected] Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Xray T2'008 Drew_Cat Electric On-Road 1941 01-25-2016 12:36 PM
Xray T2'007 Joep Electric On-Road 4185 07-07-2014 09:22 AM
XRay T3 (spy pics) syndr0me Electric On-Road 33 07-13-2010 04:43 PM
where to get xray?? 2qwik Northwest Racers 20 10-10-2009 03:02 AM
New Xray T3!!! Jammin'Trey Electric On-Road 39 10-09-2009 12:40 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 05:18 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net