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Old 11-18-2009, 03:19 PM   #631
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I wonder if this is why the 416 mounts the 2 piece pivots the other way? Tough to speculate on crash damage.

Car looks good on the track though.
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Hi there, Nick perhaps your mate who makes the aftermarket bulkheads for the tc5 could come up with something.What I think is needed is a one piece block like what Tamiya and now Yokomo use.I'm sure your mate who has nine cars with this problem would be much appreciated as would some of us, plus its more business for your mate which must be good .Just a thought.
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:29 PM   #633
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If he comes friday i'll see what he says

One piece in my opinion would definitely sort it
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One piece suspension blocks @fr bends pretty badly after few hard crashes ....
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One piece suspension blocks @fr bends pretty badly after few hard crashes ....
Not if it's designed properly with enough supporting material...

The problem here is there is only one screw taking the impact load. The locating lug seemed smart but it doesn't offer the extra clamping force to spread the impact load. If there were 2 screws, impact force would be more evenly spread due to the extra clamping action.

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Thanks Nick that would be great.A solid one piece unit would be the way to go.I don't think ca glue is really going to cut it in decent hit lol.
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Plus ca would probably wear away after taking the screw in and out a few times...

If I owned one I wouldn't really like the idea of having to Ca a new chassis because it's a weak design
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The Phi 09 has similar suspension mounts but they use two screws and are recessed into the chassis. Perhaps they were aware of this potential problem.
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Plus ca would probably wear away after taking the screw in and out a few times...

If I owned one I wouldn't really like the idea of having to Ca a new chassis because it's a weak design
X RAY should have OPTIMIZED copying Tamiya suspension blocks and made it a one piece like Tamiya.They say it is optimized,but it is only a copy of another manufacturer's product.False advertising.
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The Phi 09 has similar suspension mounts but they use two screws and are recessed into the chassis. Perhaps they were aware of this potential problem.
I think Xray will trying to convince people that one screw is not the problem. Image having to replace all those chassis. Or will they be asking owners to countersink the 2nd screw hole themselves...
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I wouldn't mind having a one piece bulkhead like they had before as an option.

I'll never put shims under the mounts anyway.

And an optional rear shock tower that lowers the quick roll center location. That pillar sitting on my rear out drive is like a pry bar just waiting to rip my out drive apart.

This is all based on my terrible driving of course. I hit "A LOT" of stuff =).



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Lets not go crazy here. I know the Tamiya well, and I wouldn't look at those toe blocks as some kind of precedent for durability. For that, maybe the Type-R?
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... on second thought it does look like there is a nub on that piece to hold it in place in two places.
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... on second thought it does look like there is a nub on that piece to hold it in place in two places.
Yes, there's a nub. But like I was saying, a screw actually spreads the load better because of the compression force it exerts against the chassis. The nub doesn't do that.
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Xrays original thought was not to bend bulkheads. The only big reason a bulkhead will bend is because of the hing pin design what Xray did was come up with a way you cant bend them or if you bend the mount just buy a new one for little instead of a new bulkhead. Yes the Phi uses the same technology. If people are hitting that hard to break that then obviously they should not be driving that car. Or just tone it down and learn how to drive it. Xrays overall design is to keep price low after you buy the kit and to make it as competative as possible.
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