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Old 11-12-2009, 03:02 AM   #496
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I don't think the include carbide trust/diff balls anymore or at least they don't look high grade. Shiny vs. dull hardened.

Parts fit ok? I think I'll wait for the T3 2010. Hinge pin blocks sure look weak.

i have not received my t3 yet, but i built a few late edition 09's for my lhs, and a few parts had dropped in quality.

some small alloy pieces had a dirty thin black ano instead of the usual rich gold.
the diffs are the same dirty black instead of the hard ano coating of the last 10 years.
The driveshaft couplers look like plain steel instead of spring steel.
and seems that the turnbuckles are now black alloy instead of spring steel.


only small tings, but for long time xray followers it is glaringly obvious and disapointing.
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looks like the took a short cut on the motor mount detail and design. It should be all one piece. Looks like they are now starting to ride on their popularity and skimping on the little details and quality. I'll skip on this $500 ride.
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looks like the took a short cut on the motor mount detail and design. It should be all one piece. Looks like they are now starting to ride on their popularity and skimping on the little details and quality. I'll skip on this $500 ride.
Motor mount is all one piece with the part that holds the layshaft!

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i have not received my t3 yet, but i built a few late edition 09's for my lhs, and a few parts had dropped in quality.

some small alloy pieces had a dirty thin black ano instead of the usual rich gold.
the diffs are the same dirty black instead of the hard ano coating of the last 10 years.
The driveshaft couplers look like plain steel instead of spring steel.
and seems that the turnbuckles are now black alloy instead of spring steel.


only small tings, but for long time xray followers it is glaringly obvious and disapointing.
the cause of black ano is some parts are black now in T3, so the latest T2'009 were produced with these parts

when I say poor quality of the parts I'm not referring to color, but just the workmanship of parts

in my kit I found threadless alu 5mm ball ends (for anti-roll bars, #303431-K), smears on carbon parts and other small imperfections, especially in screws

XRAY can't afford these things
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Parts fit ok? I think I'll wait for the T3 2010. Hinge pin blocks sure look weak.
The T3 is the 2010 car.
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Default ok 2011.

or maybe a T3R, but these companies are pricing themselves out of the market. I hope the T3r is natural aluminum or gunmetal. Looks more tech. lol I would rather have this if it means lowing the kit cost.
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Motor mount is all one piece with the part that holds the layshaft!

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Looks like a separate brace holding the motor mount. Looks tacky.
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only a small note, from the first T2 (2006) the overall quality of the parts has deteriorated gradually...
The words "poor quality" and "Xray" don't usually appear in the same sentence. Very disappointing, might have to rethink my decision to order one.
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Looks like a separate brace holding the motor mount. Looks tacky.
It looks to me to move the motor in 3mm they had to make the motor mount thinner. So I suspect the extra brace is to keep it from bending in a hard crash.
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looks like the took a short cut on the motor mount detail and design. It should be all one piece. Looks like they are now starting to ride on their popularity and skimping on the little details and quality. I'll skip on this $500 ride.

The motor mount is by design. I love how many internet engineers there are
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The brace for the motor mount moves the furthest forward screw to the middle so it doesn't create uneven flex. If you look, the last screw for the motor mount is even with the one that bolts down the bulkhead on the other side. I believe this idea was originally pioneered on the 416 (and revised on the WE due to the mount flexing with fast motors) and then later appeared on the Photon and now the T3.
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I am debating purchasing a T3 but I'm really not sure if it would benefit me any. I am a relatively new racer and I currently have two T2's. Would moving up to the T3 actually help me or should I wait until I get some more experience racing?
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I am debating purchasing a T3 but I'm really not sure if it would benefit me any. I am a relatively new racer and I currently have two T2's. Would moving up to the T3 actually help me or should I wait until I get some more experience racing?
To be honest, spend the money on tires and track time. Unless you can drive the full 6 minutes without hitting anything, the difference in the two chassis more than likely won't be apparent to you. Also try different setup changes to find what suits your driving style. The T2 is still a solid platform.
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just got "the call" this afternoon... RC America should be shipping units that had been on back order with them today.
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Im suprised there is any question about quality in the new car. Being one of the few people that actually have one at the moment, I know for a fact that it builds just as easy as any other xray (T1FK, T2, 007,008,009). You guys wont be disappointed if you grab one.
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