R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-20-2010, 07:00 AM   #2851
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,559
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shesha View Post
Finally, managed to get round to some more practice last night, what a session, came to a perfect drivin setup for my likin.

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...=1715&setup=t3

Plenty of steering onpower and offpower and the rear end is really planted.

What you guys recommended on the QRC being one is spot on, the extra front width in the front helped alot.
Shesha - i'm happy you've made progress with your setup. i think there is two more things you should try when you can..

#1 moving the inner ackerman post forward on the chassis. in this setting you will have less overall ackerman, but your ackerman settings will be more fine grained

#2 experiment with lowering the front arm mounts. you don't have to move both arm mounts at once, you could say lower the front arm mount and that would generate anti-dive --- something that could be very helpful when running such a high horsepower motor as you are.
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / MaxRotation FPV Drone Racing / [email protected] Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 10:53 AM   #2852
Tech Master
 
KWT-NITRO's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 1,616
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shesha View Post
Finally, managed to get round to some more practice last night, what a session, came to a perfect drivin setup for my likin.

http://forum.teamxray.com/xform/inde...=1715&setup=t3

Plenty of steering onpower and offpower and the rear end is really planted.

What you guys recommended on the QRC being one is spot on, the extra front width in the front helped alot.
do you call 20 hours on the track A SESSION?? more like a Le Mans 24H Race
__________________
Team Kuwait, Team Terribles, www.rccck.org
Kuwait National Champion
FEMCA Truggy Finalist & FEMCA Buggy Semi-Finalist
Thanks to all my sponsors: Modelix/Ultimate Racing, AKA Racing, AVID Racing, Stick-it1 Racing and HES
KWT-NITRO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 11:55 AM   #2853
Tech Elite
 
BlackedOutREVO's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 3,791
Trader Rating: 67 (100%+)
Default

I agree with hanulec anti dive works really well in mod. And the forward post as well, two things I always run!
__________________
R1 Wurks/Awesomatix USA/Roche USA/Protoform/Solaris/Mo Speed/Speedworld Raceway
BlackedOutREVO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 11:57 AM   #2854
Tech Master
 
KWT-NITRO's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 1,616
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

i already have the forword post on my T2 but how will the anti dive help when running MOD?? when you say anti dive, front arm angeled toward the rear or front?? which side is lower?? i guess rear is lower??
__________________
Team Kuwait, Team Terribles, www.rccck.org
Kuwait National Champion
FEMCA Truggy Finalist & FEMCA Buggy Semi-Finalist
Thanks to all my sponsors: Modelix/Ultimate Racing, AKA Racing, AVID Racing, Stick-it1 Racing and HES
KWT-NITRO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 02:04 PM   #2855
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,559
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KWT-NITRO View Post
i already have the forword post on my T2 but how will the anti dive help when running MOD?? when you say anti dive, front arm angeled toward the rear or front?? which side is lower?? i guess rear is lower??
T2 forward post != T3 forward post. I think T3 forward post == T2 rear post. I always ran my T2 w/ the rear post.

Anyway -- anti-dive will help the car from compressing the front suspension so quickly when you get on the brakes. I found it to be necessary when going from 13.5T to basically anything quicker. Also, w/ the T3 you don't have to just use the default +/- 0.75mm options, you can use shims to get less than 0.75mm pin height differences.
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / MaxRotation FPV Drone Racing / [email protected] Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 07:14 PM   #2856
Tech Fanatic
 
shesha's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 826
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to shesha
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hanulec View Post
Shesha - i'm happy you've made progress with your setup. i think there is two more things you should try when you can..

#1 moving the inner ackerman post forward on the chassis. in this setting you will have less overall ackerman, but your ackerman settings will be more fine grained

#2 experiment with lowering the front arm mounts. you don't have to move both arm mounts at once, you could say lower the front arm mount and that would generate anti-dive --- something that could be very helpful when running such a high horsepower motor as you are.

Hanulec, am not sure about what you are referring to the ackerman post forward, you mean the plastic piece that slides back and forth from setting 1 to 5 or are you referring to the plastic which the bearings seat in?

I did not touch the post since I was not sure, but played with the antidive, my car initiall before setting up antidive was lacking a bit of on power steering, so when I put in antidive on the front being front plastic piece at 0 degree and rear +0.75 it felt really nice on the corner entry and very comfortable you can see the change on the first lap and corners.

however having lost the steering on mid corner and exit, i switched out the plastic to reverse the process and went with pro-kickup, it was perfect, but then you lost the previous effect but still it was good with the on-power steering which gave me just the right amount.

I could go back to the anti-dive and work on the onpower steering with some other feature on the car to compensate.

__________________
R.C.C.C.K - Team Kuwait
shesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 07:17 PM   #2857
Tech Fanatic
 
shesha's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 826
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to shesha
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KWT-NITRO View Post
i already have the forword post on my T2 but how will the anti dive help when running MOD?? when you say anti dive, front arm angeled toward the rear or front?? which side is lower?? i guess rear is lower??
Antdive means the front arms are leaning downwards , rear is higher.

Example front at 0 and rear at +0.75 or -0.75 front and rear 0

Like hanulec said it really keeps the car balanced when you hit the brakes, front end does not squat down.
__________________
R.C.C.C.K - Team Kuwait
shesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 07:20 PM   #2858
Tech Fanatic
 
shesha's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 826
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to shesha
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KWT-NITRO View Post
do you call 20 hours on the track A SESSION?? more like a Le Mans 24H Race
I needed to sort out my sleep it's $ucked up, so might as well stay awake on something i can concentrate on.

FYI try the 36LS tires they are better than the 36PP
__________________
R.C.C.C.K - Team Kuwait
shesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 07:33 PM   #2859
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 295
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shesha View Post
I could go back to the anti-dive and work on the onpower steering with some other feature on the car to compensate.

I may have missed this mentioned else where but if you're currently @ 4deg caster, go back to anti-dive then change to 6deg caster blocks to get your mid and exit steering back.
g26er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 07:37 PM   #2860
Tech Fanatic
 
shesha's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 826
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to shesha
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by g26er View Post
I may have missed this mentioned else where but if you're currently @ 4deg caster, go back to anti-dive then change to 6deg caster blocks to get your mid and exit steering back.
Yup u are right, but i dont have the 6 degree caster blocks, the other guys finished them off from the shop and we are out of stock, till they are back in stock.

I know particular guy went through 4 of them in one session...
__________________
R.C.C.C.K - Team Kuwait
shesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 07:57 PM   #2861
Tech Champion
 
hanulec's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: @ the post office
Posts: 8,559
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shesha View Post
Hanulec, am not sure about what you are referring to the ackerman post forward, you mean the plastic piece that slides back and forth from setting 1 to 5 or are you referring to the plastic which the bearings seat in?
yes - im talking about the plastic that holds the bearing in the chassis and top deck.

i'd give anti-dive another try, but this time w/ 6 degree c-hubs. i think that will be the hot modified setup. you might be able to not do the 6 degree c-hubs if your running a lot of camber gain in the front or really stiff springs (have you tried past a 3.0 in the front yet... if not, please do).
__________________
FJ / ROAR #2-122945 / MaxRotation FPV Drone Racing / [email protected] Awesomatix USA / Wild Turbo Fan / Mon-Tech Racing / RocheRC USA / Side Piece /
LRP / John's BSR Tires / TeamEAM / TQ Wire / R1 / Team Scream / PCR / MIX
RacerLog wiki Awesomatix A700 / 2wd offroad 4 life
hanulec is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 08:07 PM   #2862
Tech Fanatic
 
shesha's Avatar
R/C Tech Elite Subscriber
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 826
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to shesha
Default

Think I will beg tomorrow on the track for 6 degs of caster, am sure it will be the cherry topping on the setup.

It feels so nice as it is, will play with the plastic bearings seats and see how that goes once i get my hands on the 6 deg caster blocks.
__________________
R.C.C.C.K - Team Kuwait
shesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2010, 08:45 PM   #2863
ark
Tech Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 703
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shesha View Post
lacking a bit of on power steering,

Shesha try change your front droop value from 5 to 6
ark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2010, 12:06 AM   #2864
Tech Champion
 
Still Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 7,234
Trader Rating: 12 (100%+)
Default

Any suggestions for a good TC 17.5 setup to use for the no timing stock class at the IIC? We will be on Jaco Blues.

Thanks.
__________________
Constantly evolving CRC WGT and WGT-R/T...Carpet & Asphalt...All thanks to Team CRC.

And a pair of Associated B6 buggies for turf and clay tracks.
Still Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2010, 05:52 AM   #2865
Team EAM
 
EAMotorsports's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 9,158
Trader Rating: 79 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to EAMotorsports
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Still Bill View Post
Any suggestions for a good TC 17.5 setup to use for the no timing stock class at the IIC? We will be on Jaco Blues.

Thanks.
Hey Bill,

I would try Mike Hanulec's setup from there last year. His car was awesome though it was a 009. He has some setups for the T3 on xray's site as well from this year's birds that are very good as well!

EA
__________________
Contact Us
Team EAM, Our Facebook
Team EAM | Xray | RCAmerica | Hudy | APEX Raceway and Hobbies | RC Mission | Killer Concepts | AVID | Hobbywing.
EAMotorsports is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Xray T2'008 Drew_Cat Electric On-Road 1941 01-25-2016 12:36 PM
Xray T2'007 Joep Electric On-Road 4185 07-07-2014 09:22 AM
XRay T3 (spy pics) syndr0me Electric On-Road 33 07-13-2010 04:43 PM
where to get xray?? 2qwik Northwest Racers 20 10-10-2009 03:02 AM
New Xray T3!!! Jammin'Trey Electric On-Road 39 10-09-2009 12:40 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 08:16 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net