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Old 06-07-2010, 11:24 AM   #2326
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I have read this whole thread and I see a lot of people referring to the pro's set up for reference, and if there is one thing I learned this weekend with talking to the guys is that the pro's cars are not like ours. They have many changes they have made to parts and setup that cant be put on a set up sheet. I'd think it be best for one to take notes from setups of people who are fast at your local track that run the T3. Correct me if I'm wrong.
look at paulies setup from the reedy. he was running exactly what he posted in his setup no other special parts he left out. i tried it this weekend and must say its the best my car has been. the only thing is that im running xray 350 shock oil front and rear and no swaybars im running the ltc body as i know paul was running a speed 6
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look at paulies setup from the reedy. he was running exactly what he posted in his setup no other special parts he left out. i tried it this weekend and must say its the best my car has been. the only thing is that im running xray 350 shock oil front and rear and no swaybars im running the ltc body as i know paul was running a speed 6
I guess you didn't see paul's chassis OR the way he mounted the front roll links.......not listed in the setup
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I guess you didn't see paul's chassis OR the way he mounted the front roll links.......not listed in the setup
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Old 06-07-2010, 11:51 AM   #2329
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Default Paul's set up.

Actually it is on the sheet he posted. Unfortunatly if you only open the PDF version there are no notes at the bottom. If you open the other version (on the left) it has a notes section at the bottom and the description is there of what he did.

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Actually it is on the sheet he posted. Unfortunatly if you only open the PDF version there are no notes at the bottom. If you open the other version (on the left) it has a notes section at the bottom and the description is there of what he did.

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you are correct darrold.
the chassis is stock and he mounted the camber link to the shock tower standoff to make the link extra long.
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you are correct darrold.
the chassis is stock and he mounted the camber link to the shock tower standoff to make the link extra long.
his chassis was NOT stock, sorry I don't care what you claim

Paul even says it wasn't stock in his thread.....

MIS-INFO per usual
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his chassis was NOT stock, sorry I don't care what you claim

Paul even says it wasn't stock in his thread.....

MIS-INFO per usual
In the interest of clarity for everyone, I was at the event and his chassis was not stock. Not a big deal though as long as you keep it in mind when testing his or any other setup
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I have read this whole thread and I see a lot of people referring to the pro's set up for reference, and if there is one thing I learned this weekend with talking to the guys is that the pro's cars are not like ours. They have many changes they have made to parts and setup that cant be put on a set up sheet. I'd think it be best for one to take notes from setups of people who are fast at your local track that run the T3. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Jay/Fred-- Sorry,
I did not even think about the chassis. i was just pointing out that Paul is good about putting all the info out there. Just as Jay pointed out Paul mentioned in his thread--- the chassis he was running may at some point be available---- in some form.

The info on the camber link mod is available.

I think all the pro's keep some information to themselves-- at least for a while. However It is at some point in their interest to pass it on so our cars make us happy.


That is all.

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my appologies on the chassis confusion.
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A few questions....

1) Any difference between ecs shafts and the knock off ones?

2) When should 50mm shafts be used instead of 52mm? Or how will the car change when using 50mm in front and back?

3) What will "Hard" C-Hubs & Steering Blocks do for performance?
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I have read this whole thread and I see a lot of people referring to the pro's set up for reference, and if there is one thing I learned this weekend with talking to the guys is that the pro's cars are not like ours. They have many changes they have made to parts and setup that cant be put on a set up sheet. I'd think it be best for one to take notes from setups of people who are fast at your local track that run the T3. Correct me if I'm wrong.
it is very hard to look at a setup sheet on the internet and have that apply to your local track. that said - i do look at the setups of others online to see what they 'say' they are doing. the euro setups always look interesting to me but i know their cars are much lighter than in the US.

by far the best help is that help you have locally. also - the help doesn't need to only be from XRay drivers . i've been encouraging my local RCAmerica teammates to post their setups whenever possible on the forum.teamxray.com. all of mine are under the username 'racerlog'.

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A few questions....

1) Any difference between ecs shafts and the knock off ones?

2) When should 50mm shafts be used instead of 52mm? Or how will the car change when using 50mm in front and back?

3) What will "Hard" C-Hubs & Steering Blocks do for performance?
non-XRay ECS are OK - but they are not as strong. any brand of ECS will require more maintenance than the CVDs as the pins are much more brittle. shrink wrapping your ECS pins is by far one of the best things you can do

i've been preferring 50mm shafts as they let the car roll more.

some people like the Hard c-hubs, knuckles and toe blocks. i always run hard rear toe blocks, but will run either medium or hard front end parts.
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the 50mm generally give more steering

stick with real xray ecs

the harder arms/knuckles are for carpet


If you are not hitting every turn-in point perfect, at this point I would stick with stock parts and practice practice practice
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the 50mm generally give more steering

stick with real xray ecs

the harder arms/knuckles are for carpet


If you are not hitting every turn-in point perfect, at this point I would stick with stock parts and practice practice practice
Thanks J, I just like the knowledge base. I wouldn't use any upgrades until I stop hitting stuff anyway. I'd hate to throw away $50.
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Thanks J, I just like the knowledge base. I wouldn't use any upgrades until I stop hitting stuff anyway. I'd hate to throw away $50.
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In the interest of clarity for everyone, I was at the event and his chassis was not stock. Not a big deal though as long as you keep it in mind when testing his or any other setup
Can you give us an idea of what was different on his chassis?
What do you think these differences changed?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who is interested, Thanks!
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