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Old 05-27-2010, 02:01 AM   #2206
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Why don't use XRAY Shock ?
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Old 05-27-2010, 02:41 AM   #2207
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What about the Tamiya 84008. A lot of people are running these and seem to like them. Does anyone have them and can you report on what you like about them?
my opinion alone, I'm just a club racer, and i run on asphalt (13.5T) with a T2 EU Rubber spec

1) a lot easier to rebuild
2) stronger than plastic shocks, obviously
3) works better for asphalt (smoother feel)
4) also works well with xray springs
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Yes buy it now !
Japan HPI was all sold out !
Best shock spring
i have like 2 full sets of hpi springs
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Well, I could'nt wait to try out this gear diff so tonight I took the car to an unused carpark to try it out. The car is a lot more punchy/ responsive and in fact I found it had a tiny little more push. This may be due to me only half filling the diff as I felt it was too firm in the diff action. Tomorrow I will try it on the track and that will be the real test. For now I am v e r y happy!
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Why don't use XRAY Shock ?
People at the track stated the Tamiya is a lot more smooth and it's consistent. They also said that it is so much easier to rebuild than the xray's.
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but i'm feel more easy to setup !
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Anyone everr seen white low friction belts on an Xray??
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People at the track stated the Tamiya is a lot more smooth and it's consistent. They also said that it is so much easier to rebuild than the xray's.
Which Tamiya shocks are they? Part Number??

They work ok with the Xray springs and do they mount the same??
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Just picked up an xray t3. What's a good motor esc combo to use?
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I have a few questions......First, should we purchase the ECS drive shafts or get the knock off ones? Any difference?

Also, does anyone have a picture of their shrink wrapped drive shafts? When you put the shrink wrap on and heat it, do you heat just the portion that touches the top of the pin or do you heat it up all the way around? Also, being that the wrap goes around it, doesn't that creat a little bind in the movement of the shaft?

Also, the reason I'm using the shrink wrap is because my pins keep backing out. I never had this problem before. Should I just switch to the pins with the flat spot on them, lock tight, and don't worry about the wrap. Or save my money on buying the pins with flat spot and just shrink wrap? Thanks.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:50 PM   #2216
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I have a few questions......First, should we purchase the ECS drive shafts or get the knock off ones? Any difference?

Also, does anyone have a picture of their shrink wrapped drive shafts? When you put the shrink wrap on and heat it, do you heat just the portion that touches the top of the pin or do you heat it up all the way around? Also, being that the wrap goes around it, doesn't that creat a little bind in the movement of the shaft?

Also, the reason I'm using the shrink wrap is because my pins keep backing out. I never had this problem before. Should I just switch to the pins with the flat spot on them, lock tight, and don't worry about the wrap. Or save my money on buying the pins with flat spot and just shrink wrap? Thanks.
The knock off atomics only come in the 50 mm length. I wouldn't worry about the ecs personally. Especially if you're having problems keeping them reliable.

I just shrink wrapped a pair tonight and wrapped one piece the entire length of the whole middle sleeve. I trimmed the excess to eliminate interference with articulation. If you're having problems I would loc-tite them and just use a dremel to carefully notch a flat spot in middle of the pin. With that and the shrink done correctly I can't imagine the pics coming out.

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Which Tamiya shocks are they? Part Number??

They work ok with the Xray springs and do they mount the same??
part number 84008, all black, yes, they work well with xray springs and in terms of mounting, you could use the tamiya mounts that comes with the shock set.
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I have a few questions......First, should we purchase the ECS drive shafts or get the knock off ones? Any difference?

Also, does anyone have a picture of their shrink wrapped drive shafts? When you put the shrink wrap on and heat it, do you heat just the portion that touches the top of the pin or do you heat it up all the way around? Also, being that the wrap goes around it, doesn't that creat a little bind in the movement of the shaft?

Also, the reason I'm using the shrink wrap is because my pins keep backing out. I never had this problem before. Should I just switch to the pins with the flat spot on them, lock tight, and don't worry about the wrap. Or save my money on buying the pins with flat spot and just shrink wrap? Thanks.
The pins should not back out if properly torqued and loctite is used.

Shrink wrap is a good idea in any case, but you need to look a bit carefully at it. Not all shrinkwrap is the same. There is a shinkwrap that comes with glue inside and is thicker and harder, and there is the thin soft version with no glue. The latter is quite flexible after shrinking and if you choose the size carefully, the edges (past the ECS tube) will shrink just enough that they'll leave a large opening for the shafts to flop about freely. These edges will keep the shrink wrap from sliding off which is a real possibility with the non-glue version.

ECS are really needed with spools but in my opinion a beneficial addition in any setup. My guess is that they should last longer than normal joints too because of the smooth operation (think wear on the drivepins).
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The ECS axles in my opinion are a must for stock racing as corner speed is so important , i use shrink wrap on mine to keep the dirt out more than to keep the pins in !! And it works

As for the tamiya dampers , i was looking at one if hge cars at the weekend and they stood at least 2 mm away from the shock towers i pesonnally think this is why the car works better with them fitted

I have to agree the xray shocks are a sod to build but i now have a good method for building them and this works well
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I have started using the Tamiya shock bladders in the Xray shocks and find them so easy to bleed and get the rebound spot on to how you want it
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