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Old 04-13-2010, 11:29 PM   #1936
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I use the qtip method, but it takes 5 years to get it done.. lol. About the only thing I do it with anymore is nitro..
Hahaha yeah thats why I dont do the qtip way. But yeah with nice CF stuff it doesnt de-laminate it seems like not being sealed. And running on asphalt means worn chassis's anyhow so I stopped putting so much time into it to have the asphalt grind it all off

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tried every tging you said and it made the car worse !!

I did lower the outer camber adjusters from 4mm to 2mm and 2 degrees of toe on the rear this msde the car rotate better but it was too nervous , so back to the originsl set up and changed the turbo delay on my tekin and this allows my to get throught the fast corner before the turbo comes in pushing me wide

i also bought an R9R today to try , this is supposed to be a goid body for steering
The R9R is wayyy aggressive. LTCR or mazda speed are the bodies of choice for pretty much all racers. The LTCR is for sure more aggressive then the speed, but the rear end doesnt want to step out mid corner. But that could also depend on how far back the wing is mounted. What are you running for droop? And did you try taking the center post out of the car?
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:18 AM   #1937
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The R9R is wayyy aggressive. LTCR or mazda speed are the bodies of choice for pretty much all racers. The LTCR is for sure more aggressive then the speed, but the rear end doesnt want to step out mid corner. But that could also depend on how far back the wing is mounted. What are you running for droop? And did you try taking the center post out of the car?
Whats your thoughts on running the rear wing on bodies forward or rear?
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:19 AM   #1938
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Whats your thoughts on running the rear wing on bodies forward or rear?
The farther back the wing is, the more stable at high speeds your car should be.

Sidecarphil- what issues are you having and did you post your setup on the xray site? Ill try and help.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:35 AM   #1939
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The farther back the wing is, the more stable at high speeds your car should be.

Sidecarphil- what issues are you having and did you post your setup on the xray site? Ill try and help.
Set up sheet is on the xray site and it is called real80 groningen

the problem is high speed front push
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I couldn't tell how wide you have the front.

Anyways, the setup sheet says its low traction so you have to get the car to roll and transfer weight. You have (if im not mistaken... dont have the knowledge of hpi springs) pretty stiff springs on the car as well as use of the stiffest setting of the stock sway bar in the rear. Move the sway bar mount inside or to the middle mounting position and try 2.8 and 2.6 springs especially when using the optional arms with the outer mounting hole. Lastly, the setup sheet shows you have one hole open all the way around the car. Thats way too stiff of a setup for any track.

Remember, every setup is about appropriate amount of weight transfer.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:18 AM   #1941
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Hello everyone. New to electric TC setup. What would y-all recomend as far as a few gearing pinion/spurs to get to start off with that will get me close? 64 pitch, medium indoor carpet (TQ raceway in Chino), running a 17.5, tekin rs pro. Also, what shock oils should I get to get me close also? Thanks everyone. probabally going to start with the RCGT class.
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Old 04-14-2010, 10:31 AM   #1942
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I couldn't tell how wide you have the front.

Anyways, the setup sheet says its low traction so you have to get the car to roll and transfer weight. You have (if im not mistaken... dont have the knowledge of hpi springs) pretty stiff springs on the car as well as use of the stiffest setting of the stock sway bar in the rear. Move the sway bar mount inside or to the middle mounting position and try 2.8 and 2.6 springs especially when using the optional arms with the outer mounting hole. Lastly, the setup sheet shows you have one hole open all the way around the car. Thats way too stiff of a setup for any track.

Remember, every setup is about appropriate amount of weight transfer.
i am standard width

the HPI gold is softer then 3.0 and stiffer then 2.6 , silver is softer then 2.6 and and stiffer then 2.4

i am going to try the Xray 2.6 front and 2.4 rear

i have 3 holes open in my pistons not one , it is my fault for miss reading the setup sheets

i moved the rear swey bar out to reduce rear grip and try to get a bit of stearing
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i am standard width

the HPI gold is softer then 3.0 and stiffer then 2.6 , silver is softer then 2.6 and and stiffer then 2.4

i am going to try the Xray 2.6 front and 2.4 rear

i have 3 holes open in my pistons not one , it is my fault for miss reading the setup sheets

i moved the rear swey bar out to reduce rear grip and try to get a bit of stearing
Try 1.15mm shims at the front wishbonesm not kit 1.5mm
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ALU QUICK ROLL CENTER HOLDER 4.9MM H1 + H2
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what's the difference between L1 and L2 vs H1 and H2 ?
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:09 AM   #1946
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L stands for low (compared to standard ones)
H stands for high (compared to standard ones)

H ones are recommended when someone uses high tyres like xenon
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Try 1.15mm shims at the front wishbonesm not kit 1.5mm
FIXED IT

changed to rear springs to the Xray 2.4 and left the front with the HPI gold front

moved the Ackerman position on the servo saver fully forward and i am quick and consistant

our track was cold and low grip still , but the car was perfect

i was even using a set of Sorex 32's as i am waiting for my Sweep EXP30's to arrive

Thanks for the advice and set up help
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FIXED IT

changed to rear springs to the Xray 2.4 and left the front with the HPI gold front

moved the Ackerman position on the servo saver fully forward and i am quick and consistant

our track was cold and low grip still , but the car was perfect

i was even using a set of Sorex 32's as i am waiting for my Sweep EXP30's to arrive

Thanks for the advice and set up help
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FIXED IT

changed to rear springs to the Xray 2.4 and left the front with the HPI gold front

moved the Ackerman position on the servo saver fully forward and i am quick and consistant

our track was cold and low grip still , but the car was perfect

i was even using a set of Sorex 32's as i am waiting for my Sweep EXP30's to arrive

Thanks for the advice and set up help
I would even try the xray 2.8 springs on the front as I have tried HPI springs a few times and they just dont feel as nice as the XRAY springs.
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Good News form Red Rc...

New from Spec-R for the Tamiya 416 is this gear differential. Made using a lightweight plastic housing, nylon gears and longlife diff joints, the full set weighs in at only 26 grams and can be reduced further, close to the weight of the original ball diff, if you use the optional aluminium drive cups. Offering amazing forward traction, this a very durable system, with little or no rebuilding necessary and which retains its setting throughout the race. Expect a version for the Xray T3 soon.
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